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Enigmatic Sorcerer of Chaos





Buena Park, CA

Well, its not that you cant do a mono-god list. I play a mono god list and although its not the most competetive list, it gets the job done. Depending on your list WoC can be a pretty low model count. I run an all plate WoC army and have only between 50-60 models in a 2250
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Enigmatic Sorcerer of Chaos





Buena Park, CA

It depends on how your basing your army really, if you want a Death Star Chosen unit that pretty much IS your army, your going to want to make it rather large. Warriors are usually ran in units of 15 or 20 it seems, and knights usually in a unit of 5. Sigvald would make the unit Stubborn Ld10 which would be quite disgusting, as well as the ability to treat all terrain as open ground. However if you for some reason fail your stupidity check, its going to suck big time for that unit of chosen(which will more than likely be a major component if not the spine of your army). So hed probably work well but it could get ugly if you get unlucky.

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Enigmatic Sorcerer of Chaos





Buena Park, CA

Yeah thats fine, I was just curious as to how you were running it. Great Weapons wll give them +2 to str but strikes last (unless you charge) and with their weapon skill at str 6... its very disturbing. Why 11 though? unless you plan to run them with 2 ranks of 6. That unit + Sigvald will stil lbe a pretty big part of the army, those 2 alone are over 700 points (considering you give chosen command). So it will still be a big part of the army just not an uber rofl death star of death... yeah..

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Enigmatic Sorcerer of Chaos





Buena Park, CA

I think the warriors are going to get beat due to the combat res in all honesty. They will lose quite often just due to static combat res, cause you will only have 1 rank (and maybe not that assuming that someone kills "2" warriors before you get to combat which is VERY likely.) Youll often find that warriors are already brutal enough in combat that you wont need to have them 6 wide for that extra guy, thats why you see more people running them in blocks of 15 (5x3) or 20 (5x4) cause that gives you static combat res already and you still kick face in killing. I just dont think 4+ units of 12 warriors is going to do you much good, your more than likely to loose your rank before you get to combat in which case youll just get slowly burnt down. Knights are generally fine with just 5 so your good there.

Oh and for ranks, yes you can situate them as you like in terms of how many for a rank, however in combat a "rank" is at least 5 guys and a rank bonus is every full "rank" after your first one. So if you go 6x2 youll get a rank bonus cause its more than five guys in a rank, however if you loose 2 guys so you only have 4 in the second rank, no rank bonus and no extra combat res(you base it off of what you started the combat with however, so if you start with 6x2 and you loose 2, you still get the bonus cause you started with a rank, but next round of combat you wont). So very often you will loose on status combat res (outnumber and the opponents unit has more ranks)
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Enigmatic Sorcerer of Chaos





Buena Park, CA

I woudlnt, that would also cause you to loose your rank bonus I believe, they are pretty brutal as is, without a mount anyhow
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Enigmatic Sorcerer of Chaos





Buena Park, CA

Yup, theres not much you can do about that, in my 2250 my characters make up 945 of my points.

Im not sure thats the best way to run warriors. They have some pretty tasty ld so they arent going to fail tests too often (hopefully) and it really takes away from their full potential I think. It looks like your trying to do a Slaanesh themed army however so if thats the case then by all means go for it. Also, giving the warriors great weapons AND shields is taking away some points.

Unless my math is just way off, Im not sure how exactly your comming short on points.

911 on heroes.
90 on hounds
786 on warriors (without full comand) 876 with command

You can get a unit of Slaanesh Knights for 220 (just a musician and Mos for upgrades)

That brings you to about 2100... Which Im not sure if your going for a 2000 point list or a 2250 (Id recomend this as its what most people seem to play with and it adds for more diversity).

You could always do that Vilitch list. A Tzeentch casty list can be very very deadly to say the least.
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Enigmatic Sorcerer of Chaos





Buena Park, CA

Well you cant change weapons in the middle of combat, so what ever your using the first round of combat, you get to stick with it till the combats over.

Well the standard helps you with +1 combat res, the musician is a tie breaker should you tie combat, and helps you rally.

Hard to say really, I dont run a magic list, far from it, so Id try to ask some one else, but every time I use a disk sorc it gets blown away by war machines.

Its up to you, whatever you prefer.

It seems more often that the magic list would be more competitive though. Again, up to you though.

 
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