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I ask this when looking at things like DKOK lasguns and the like. It seems that the resin would be really easy to break on stuff like that.

They are very fragile.

Lighter than plastic and metal , but fragile

Anything thin will break when a dog farts near by. Items like the ork fighta-bomma if pinned together is pretty solid. The DKOK lasguns of my friend stuff was so thin and small I was afraid to even look at them or they would break.

I'd definetly recommend using protective army transports/battlefoam to store em.

They are fragile - dropping a model will result in death.

However - DKOK models usually comes with tons of DKOK lasgun bits to repair em.

This then begs the question, as to why Forgeworld doesn't cast some of the more fragile pieces, like lasguns, in metal.

I dunno about that bit!

But also, Resin is prone to shattering when dropped/knocked. Not breaking....shattering.

Relapse wrote:I ask this when looking at things like DKOK lasguns and the like. It seems that the resin would be really easy to break on stuff like that.

I have had a couple break but the breaks are easy to fix with super glue.

If you own a copy of the new Space Hulk, they are more fragile than the little fiddly bits hanging off the Terminators.

That should explain how fragile FW is (if you own Spulk).

Relapse wrote:This then begs the question, as to why Forgeworld doesn't cast some of the more fragile pieces, like lasguns, in metal.

Because then they cant charge FW price for them

Relapse wrote:This then begs the question, as to why Forgeworld doesn't cast some of the more fragile pieces, like lasguns, in metal.

Because then you get weirdly balanced models?

Resin is pretty light.
Metal is pretty heavy.

The two don't cancel out, especially if the model itself is posed oddly.

Think back to the metal/plastic hybrids.
Now subtract a bit of weight from the plastic part.

And think about how often that would fall over.


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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:I dunno about that bit!

But also, Resin is prone to shattering when dropped/knocked. Not breaking....shattering.

The thing is, Forge World has done a pretty good job anticipating what might 'shatter'.

Take the Daemon Prince and his Herald.
If you're not careful, there's a bit on the Herald's tongue that can(if he falls and 'shatters') will detach.

The other part of that is that it's such an easy fix, even if it DOES shatter.

Same goes with the big aircraft and Titans...
They typically are balanced a well and if they fall they break apart at the mold lines, so repairs are easy.

Resin is also sensitive to heat. It will become soft if held under the hot tap.

Obviously that's not something that usually happens except when you need to bend a piece into shape.

But think would could happen to a resin model in a car in hot sun!

I imagine big stuff could be badly damaged by a drop, but I've found that the smaller figures, eg DKOK infantry, are so light that when on rare occasion they have hit the carpet and suffer no damage at all.

My local store has a marauder bomber as a piece of terrain when someone left it in their car on a hot summer day and it warped like heck. So its now a crashed plane. Note they've also had that piece for as long as I have been going there 8+ yrs.

Kanluwen wrote:

Relapse wrote:This then begs the question, as to why Forgeworld doesn't cast some of the more fragile pieces, like lasguns, in metal.

Because then you get weirdly balanced models?

Resin is pretty light.
Metal is pretty heavy.

The two don't cancel out, especially if the model itself is posed oddly.

Think back to the metal/plastic hybrids.
Now subtract a bit of weight from the plastic part.

And think about how often that would fall over.

As I stated, I was talking about pieces like lasguns. I don't think that would be heavy enough to tip a DKoK miniature.

I understand what you were talking about.

And again, it's a balance issue.
Would you say that the old metal heavy bolters were heavy enough to tip over a plastic Devastator Marine? How about the old metal Plasma Cannons?
Because those two models(off the top of my head) were some of the absolute worst for balance--even going with the standard solid pose.

I don't think you do get my point. I'm not talking about heavy bolters or plasma cannons. They would be thick enough to withstand some normal wear and tear.
I'm talking of the thinner weapons, like swords, axes, las guns, etc. There is no logical way these would be heavy enough to tip a model.

Relapse wrote:I don't think you do get my point. I'm not talking about heavy bolters or plasma cannons. They would be thick enough to withstand some normal wear and tear.
I'm talking of the thinner weapons, like swords, axes, las guns, etc. There is no logical way these would be heavy enough to tip a model.

FW small parts are very brittle. Actually they are all brittle , but small ones do break way easier than metal counter part.

Not sure about compared to plastic because resin can bend / warp ( you can see it as a plus or negative )

( Thats what you are asking right? like if the las gun barrel , sword hilts , spear shafts etc etc break easily )

Relapse wrote:I don't think you do get my point. I'm not talking about heavy bolters or plasma cannons. They would be thick enough to withstand some normal wear and tear.
I'm talking of the thinner weapons, like swords, axes, las guns, etc. There is no logical way these would be heavy enough to tip a model.

No, I get your point. And I'm TELLING you that it is a balance issue. With plastic--it wouldn't be any sort of issue. Resin is far lighter than plastic. Even something as simple as a metal lasgun(which, mind you, isn't as small as you seem to think).

@ relapse

I have used metal weapons (rifle, lasguns etc) on resin minis (troop sized) and have had very few balance issues. Any caused were due to the poses of the mini where the excess weight starts tipping them over. A bit of weight in the bases cures this.

Where I have used FW and other mfrs resin products I have noticed that you can get very brittle components especially thing like radio antennae, rifle barrels, bayonets, swords, spears. Doesn't happen all the time but its something to be aware of, its part of the pain and joy of using resin.

That said iIhave suffered worse damage with plastic minis falling over, bent and buckled rifle barrels and swords look awful!

Kanluwen wrote:No, I get your point. And I'm TELLING you that it is a balance issue. With plastic--it wouldn't be any sort of issue. Resin is far lighter than plastic. Even something as simple as a metal lasgun(which, mind you, isn't as small as you seem to think).

You must have been using some oddly posed models, as Mr. Burning mentions, for them to fall over with the weight of a las gun then. The resins I have seen with small metal parts are pretty solid and don't fall over.

The DKOK lasguns are as fragile as they look. I've had a few break off. They tend to break at the barrels. As stated earlier, somebody at FW must have planned for this, as I have a TON of extra lasguns.