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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/06 23:24:42
Subject: Citadel Spray Not Working
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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I recently got a spray gun from GW and the  ing thing does not work very well at all the paint, when it comes out, comes out in a short pathetic little burst and then stops working. The paint was mixed in the correct ratio and the can of propellant was nice and warm. has any one else experienced similar problems?
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TOM!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/06 23:36:31
Subject: Citadel Spray Not Working
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Yep, then I fiddled with the small piece of brass that turns (it's stiff the first time) near where you put the paint canister into the gun. It's a shut-off valve and it's probably partly closed. Hope that helps.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/07 02:43:51
Subject: Citadel Spray Not Working
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Privateer
The paint dungeon, Arizona
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I hate to inform you, but you bought a huge gimmicked piece of crap. The took the most bottom end type of paint sprayer/'air brush' and stuck a flamer handle on it so they could charge an extra 30$. Theres non GW versions of the same thing for like 5-8$ out there, but they dont work much better.
So, the paint may not be mixed thin enough (despite what the directions might claim). try spraying some plain water through it- if that sprays the paint is still to thick and needs more thinning. Its not uncommon for hte paint, when it finally works in these things, to be so thin that its more like a wash or ink. This leads to poor results, and takes lots of layers. Which by coincedence also makes you waste paint and canned air-which of course you're supposed to go buy more of to try to get the sprayer to work.
Then, after it makes you so mad you trash it- you then have to go buy stuff to strip the crappy paint layers ff- and then even more paint to fix all the problems. If you cant get it to work with one can of air, and a jar of paint- it probly aint gonna go- so dont keep throwing money at it.
A few people have gotten very modest results with these, but most stories are like yours or worse- best of luck.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/07 02:56:36
Subject: Citadel Spray Not Working
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Mine works fine, as long as you only put foundation paint or washes in it> I've never had any of the problems you describe. Although I agree, it is very overpriced.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/07 02:58:06
Subject: Citadel Spray Not Working
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Martial Arts Fiday
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GW miniatures-Good
GW Hobby Products- Overpriced CRAP!
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GW didn't mean to hit your wallet and I know they love you, baby. I'm sure they won't do it again so it's ok to purchase and make up. 
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/07 03:01:57
Subject: Citadel Spray Not Working
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Also, did you hear? The sky is blue!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/07 05:09:38
Subject: Citadel Spray Not Working
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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Nurgleboy77 wrote:GW miniatures-Good but overpriced
GW Hobby Products- Overpriced CRAP!
There fixed it up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/10 06:27:28
Subject: Citadel Spray Not Working
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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Mistress of minis wrote:I hate to inform you, but you bought a huge gimmicked piece of crap. The took the most bottom end type of paint sprayer/'air brush' and stuck a flamer handle on it so they could charge an extra 30$. Theres non GW versions of the same thing for like 5-8$ out there, but they dont work much better.
So, the paint may not be mixed thin enough (despite what the directions might claim). try spraying some plain water through it- if that sprays the paint is still to thick and needs more thinning. Its not uncommon for hte paint, when it finally works in these things, to be so thin that its more like a wash or ink. This leads to poor results, and takes lots of layers. Which by coincedence also makes you waste paint and canned air-which of course you're supposed to go buy more of to try to get the sprayer to work.
Then, after it makes you so mad you trash it- you then have to go buy stuff to strip the crappy paint layers ff- and then even more paint to fix all the problems. If you cant get it to work with one can of air, and a jar of paint- it probly aint gonna go- so dont keep throwing money at it.
A few people have gotten very modest results with these, but most stories are like yours or worse- best of luck.
yeah i sorta guessed that id been ripped
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TOM!!!
Lasgun with laser-sight = twin linked lasgun
1,000 points of mighty gaurd
[quote=Solly
Guardsman Tom, you are hereby given a field promotion to Sergeant for your excellent procurement of enemy information.
You have supplied your commanders with intel that will allow us to dominate the latest threats from our enemies.
Congratulations, your command takes effect immediately..
Hit it with a russ and it'll die! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/10 14:13:52
Subject: Citadel Spray Not Working
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Swift Swooping Hawk
Canberra, Australia
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GW have an airgun? Man, thats scary. I wouldn't buy it.
Here in Australia, GW stuff is extremely expensive. Seems to work out about 40-50% more then overseas sellers (us smart Aussies buy our stuff from you peeps).
As far as quality go's GW arnt all that good. Always, always look around for the products in other stores.
I don't even buy GW paints anymore unless I really need too. Desperation does things to a man!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/10 14:17:43
Subject: Citadel Spray Not Working
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Norn Queen
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Yes very similar problems to the OP and after reading Mistress' post feel slightly better that Im not alone.
Have had nothing but problems with the spray gun tbh, from cleaning it, to poor consistency, to the propellant freezing up within 2 minutes of use, to poor coverage.
Serious waste of dosh Im afraid :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/10 14:22:35
Subject: Citadel Spray Not Working
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Martial Arts Fiday
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GW Hobby Supplies...
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"Holy Sh*&, you've opened my eyes and changed my mind about this topic, thanks Dakka OT!"
-Nobody Ever
Proverbs 18:2
"CHEESE!" is the battlecry of the ill-prepared.
warboss wrote:
GW didn't mean to hit your wallet and I know they love you, baby. I'm sure they won't do it again so it's ok to purchase and make up. 
Albatross wrote:I think SlaveToDorkness just became my new hero.
EmilCrane wrote:Finecast is the new Matt Ward.
Don't mess with the Blade and Bolter! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/10 15:19:38
Subject: Citadel Spray Not Working
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Confessor Of Sins
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well... the flamer/paint sprayer uses propane as a propellant... i wonder if you can really turn it into a flamer?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/10 17:01:37
Subject: Citadel Spray Not Working
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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Regarding CO2 sprayguns, please remember to thin your paints by a LOT. Thinner than you usually do when you paint by brush (you do thin your paints, right?). You may want to blast some water or acrylic thinner through the gun before doing paints to make sure it's ready to use.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/10 22:21:13
Subject: Citadel Spray Not Working
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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frgsinwntr wrote:well... the flamer/paint sprayer uses propane as a propellant... i wonder if you can really turn it into a flamer?
this
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/11 02:58:24
Subject: Citadel Spray Not Working
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'd pay $10 to anyone to dump flammable liquid into their sprayer and than try to use it as a flamethrower.
Then I'd sit back, call 911 and watch the pyrotechnics display.
Yeah. If you have access to a compressor with a 20+ gallon tank and able to put up 1.5+ cfm of air you are better off going to a home repair store and buying a spray gun meant for cars. $50 at Home Depot gets a Husky brand paint sprayer that is 1,000X's better than the GW spray gun for about the same price (and Husky is not exactly top end).
Or get yourself a nice large spray tip airbrush (.5mm or above), a compressor with 2gal tank (about $80 new) and get much better results (and with practice able to go down to a pencil thin line).
I have a Badger 105 Patriot with a .6mm needle. Can go from a 3" wide pattern down to a pencil lead line. For our scale 3" wide pattern is plenty wide, even for tanks and skimmers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/11 03:30:57
Subject: Citadel Spray Not Working
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Paramount Plague Censer Bearer
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Nurgleboy77 wrote:GW Hobby Supplies...

Our Wallets can't repel prices of that magnitude!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/11 05:15:20
Subject: Citadel Spray Not Working
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Martial Arts Fiday
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Callum officially WINS!
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"Holy Sh*&, you've opened my eyes and changed my mind about this topic, thanks Dakka OT!"
-Nobody Ever
Proverbs 18:2
"CHEESE!" is the battlecry of the ill-prepared.
warboss wrote:
GW didn't mean to hit your wallet and I know they love you, baby. I'm sure they won't do it again so it's ok to purchase and make up. 
Albatross wrote:I think SlaveToDorkness just became my new hero.
EmilCrane wrote:Finecast is the new Matt Ward.
Don't mess with the Blade and Bolter! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/11 05:46:41
Subject: Re:Citadel Spray Not Working
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Paramount Plague Censer Bearer
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Nurgleboy77 wrote "Callum officially WINS!" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/22 07:09:56
Subject: Citadel Spray Not Working
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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Ratius wrote:Yes very similar problems to the OP and after reading Mistress' post feel slightly better that Im not alone.
Have had nothing but problems with the spray gun tbh, from cleaning it, to poor consistency, to the propellant freezing up within 2 minutes of use, to poor coverage.
Serious waste of dosh Im afraid :(
I agree totaly
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TOM!!!
Lasgun with laser-sight = twin linked lasgun
1,000 points of mighty gaurd
[quote=Solly
Guardsman Tom, you are hereby given a field promotion to Sergeant for your excellent procurement of enemy information.
You have supplied your commanders with intel that will allow us to dominate the latest threats from our enemies.
Congratulations, your command takes effect immediately..
Hit it with a russ and it'll die! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/22 08:01:02
Subject: Citadel Spray Not Working
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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i bought one of those.
i feel kind of embarrased now.
but yes the short bursts are cause because the shut off nozzle at the top needs a fiddle.
i bought one, and it worked great with foundation paints, but when trying to use it with normal paints, it was a horrible experience and a waste of $6 paints (australian).
i would never put a wash in my spray gun, it would literally blast most of it to waste.
personally i prefer to actually paint the basecoat now if im not using a foundation paint, but it works well and tanks and vehicles.
i agree that it is VERY overpriced, and at my local GW they encourage to buy 2 canned air bottles to decrease cool up periods while spraying. if i were in that situation again i wouldn't of wasted my money and i would of bought more models (online). GW is just so overpriced.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/22 08:06:02
Subject: Citadel Spray Not Working
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Lake Forest, California, South Orange County
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I'm not sure how many there are around the country, but here in California we have a place called Harbor Freight. They have a crappy little dual action siphon feed airbrush for $15 that is worlds better than that GW toy.
If you want to get into airbrushing even just for the sake of base coating, I recommend a proper airbrush and compressor setup. If you are only base coating then a cheaper airbrush will do just fine as long as you can take it apart to clean it.
If you want a real airbrush, I just got a Paasche Talon set with 3 different needle sizes and it is simply amazing!!!
I would also avoid cheap compressors unless they have an air tank. Cheap ones tend to be rather jumpy and pulsate rather than give you consistent flow. If you have an air tank then the only thing that matters is a good regulator.
GW should stick to models and leave the big boys to the serious stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/22 22:43:51
Subject: Citadel Spray Not Working
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Slippery Ultramarine Scout Biker
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Eh, I personally haven't had a problem with the GW spray gun, did my entire Nurgle Daemon army in greens and browns with it, did 2 Monoliths with Boltgun Metal, and it's worked fine. Yeah , it's a bit cheap, yeah you have to switch air cans every 2 minutes, but does it do the job? Yeah, it does.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/23 00:48:59
Subject: Citadel Spray Not Working
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Yeah I own one myself and I like it, helps so much when it comes to tanks and infantry base coats. Yeah its cheap, but I'm not using it for much and it gets the job done, quite well in my opinion actually.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/23 00:58:21
Subject: Citadel Spray Not Working
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Mounted Kroot Tracker
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I'm terribly sorry, but I remember a couple months ago, there was a similar thread and the first two posts were EXACTLY the same.
I have to say, GW does a wonderful job on their tools. I have a "sculpting tool". It cost a bundle, and toothpicks are more useful.
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