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Hey all , so I'm playing as SM in a Tournament and I'm doing pretty horrible. Whatever, next week its 2500. I don't even know if i have that much points lol, so I'm going to knit out random, unexpected units. Idk if this is the right forum to put it under.. but , anyway any random crazy ideas no one will expect?

So far, im thinking.. 2 squads of 9 Sternguard, drop pods, all combi meltas.
and as HQ , maybe pedro kantor cause it might be objectives.. or Vulkan , for 18 TL meltas =D . yea, suck one Landraiders..

then... idk, what can you guys think of?

5 Termi's with Librarian and GOI ? , Deep strike next to the drop pods, no scatter?

3 Thunder fire cannons? cause 12 blasts is totally needed.

2 Land Raiders? each carrying 10 CC scouts, because they are the best CC unit a space marine army can offer?

or maybe, just 10 vanguard with jump packs , all upgraded to about 600 pts ?

anyway , if anyone has a crazy list idea or just an idea on a unit , please feel free to post

MotF, Land Speeder Storms, and Thunderfire Cannons are all fairly underplayed, as are Vanguard veterans. I've also never run across Calgar. Him + some Termies, 3 Scout squads with combat blades that rush on objectives, LSS with Multi meltas... That'll show 'em!

Yes , I'm thinking the thunderfire for anti infantry, 18 combi meltas for anti tank, terminators for support , and scouts for troops..

Master of the forge with conversion beam? I like =]

How about:

Pedro Kantor or Vulkan He'Stan

10 x Sternguard w/ rhino - 10 x combi meltas

10 x Sternguard w/ rhino - 10 x combi meltas

10 x Assault Terminators w/ Land Raider - 10 x thunder hammers

Perhaps scouts for troops.....

1 x Land Speeder - multi melta & heavy flamer

1 x Land Speeder - multi melta & heavy flamer

1 x Land Speeder - multi melta & heavy flamer

1 x Land Raider

1 x Thunderfire Cannon or Dakka Predator

1 x Thunderfire Cannon or Dakka Predator


So you've got vulkan for twin linked meltas, flamers and thunder hammers. Pedro to make the sternguard score. So either are useful.

Terminators combat squad down, both take a land raider of your choice.

Sternguard I've given rhinos because they're mobile. Once they pod in sternguard cannot move so much. Sure you can only fire 2 weapons out the hatch but its better than getting shot to pieces and foot slogging it every where.

Troops I'm not sure about because of points. I'd rather take tacticals with either rhinos with multi meltas and flamers or combat squad them with razorbacks with weapons of your choice. Scouts have no transports.

Speeders can deep strike in and melt something or turbo boost around. They've got flamers for toasting infantry too.

Thunder fire cannons or dakka predators, your choice. Both need to stay fixed to move though the thunder fire cannon has more firing options and a techmarine which can bolster a ruin; useful if you combat squad

Hope that helps!!

Haha i love it! scout snipers w/ cloaks as troops in a bolstered cover? 2+ save without getting down! and yea , I can only get one of the chapter tactics right ? dam.. scoring TL melta sternguard haha.. and i like the termis in the LR but i only have 5 termis... O well one LR is good..

Thanks lovin the ideas! hmm Yea, il go 2 dakka preds and one thunderfire because thats all i have.. scouts FTW! haha

Mr. DK wrote:
Master of the forge with conversion beam? I like =]

Make sure to put him on a bike, so he gains Relentless, then zip around and do some mechanicus style sniping :-) And much more importantly, write battlereports!

Servitors are pretty rarely seen...

Yea but I have no servitor models.. =[ , yo! I dig that haha that is so going in the list ! And deff we will see them in the Battle Report!

anything else keep it coming!


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Heres the list so far, it is a little over 2000pts but the game is going to be 2500 so I got plenty to spend...

HQ:
Pedro Kantor

Master of the Forge with Conversion beam and Bike

ELITE:
10 Sternguard, combi meltas, rhino with EA

10 Sternguard, combi meltas, rhino with EA

5 CC termis, TH/SS

Landraider Transport

TROOPS
10 Scout Snipers w/ Camo cloaks

10 Tactical Marines, Rhino

Fast
10 Assault Marines?
w/ PF

HEAVY
2 Dakka Preds

Thunderfire cannon or Land Raider.. or Vindicator ?

Mr. DK wrote:Haha i love it! scout snipers w/ cloaks as troops in a bolstered cover? 2+ save without getting down!

This. I run that fairly often, and it's awesome against many armies. Be really annoying with the scouts, by doing things like shooting at HQ units (Telion helps with that) or units on objectives, and your opponent will divert so much shooting phase at a unit that refuses to die. They might not make up their points in kills directly, but so much enemy firepower is wasted on a cheap unit, while the rest of your relativley intact stuff makes up the points for them.

Calgar + Shrike + LSS and Assault Scouts

Fleet Calgar leading 10 Hammernators Shrike and an assault squad infiltrating. And the LSSs with their 45" first turn charge

It certainly won't be an army many would have come across before. On a quick not the LSS should always have Heavy flamers due to a) Scout BS and b) allows you to burn a way through for the fleet assault scouts if you opponent castles .

The other fun combo is Pedro and The Bystander. 30 Sternguard in DPs one unit lead by The Bystander for bolter drill the other lead by Pedro hopefully all being within 12" of him for the +1 attack. Just plain mean!