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I am building a bug army for my brother even though he currently doesn't deserve it.
well here is the list anyways


HQ

Swarm lord 280

Troops

Termagant Brood Devourers 250
Mycetic Spore twin linked Deathspitters 50

Termagant Brood Devourers 250
Mycetic Spore twin linked Deathspitters 50

Termagant Brood Devourers 250
Mycetic Spore twin linked Deathspitters 50

Tervigon Adrenal Glands Regeneration Cluster Spines Onslaught 215

Tervigon Adrenal Glands Regeneration Cluster Spines Onslaught 215


Heavy

Trygon Prime Regeneration 265

Trygon Prime Regeneration 265


1990

10 points left with nothing to really add that will ballence it out what do you guys and gals think?

Chuck an adrenal gland on one prime for that ten points?

First of all, you don't have a lot of things that kills tanks. You will however completely roll over most foot sloggers. If you think he will be facing tanks and transports, look at zoanthropes and hiveguards, they are solid for taking out armor.

I think you are not optimizing the possible synergies in this list. The tervigons Onslaught is only really useful on advancing devilgaunts, but they will deepstrike so doesn't really need to run and shoot, and they will be far from the tervigons for the first rounds. If the gants vere running up the table, they would work together much better. If you go this footslogger route, give toxin sacs to the Tervigon. Also look into swapping onslaught for catalyst, since running gaunts end up out of the 6" effective range of tervigons quite quickly, if the tervigons has to use their shooting phases using psychic powers. Also, give a tyrant guard or two to the swarm lord. Lots of points but keeps it alive a good while.

Alternatively make this whole army a reserve army
I'd suggest swapping the swarmlord for a winged Hive Tyrant with the Hive commander upgrade. That way one tervigon can outflank and the HT can deepstrike, if you want to be aggressive. Then only one tervigon needs to start on table, wich probably means it's death to shooting first turn... so maybe it could be switched for three zoanthropes in a pod for maximum deepstrike.

And you know, little brothers never deserve all the love and care we give them :-)

Every thing is supposed to ether come on from my board edge, or if the trygons arrive first use the tunnel network, or spore drop. and if 4 MC'S can't deal with the medium to light tanks I might change one trygon for a mawloc or add a carni with some tank killing capability
I am really worried about the odd land raider tho
I might buy some ravaners to convert to zoes

Swarmlord should always have guard. Without them, he will die to shooting very quickly.

DaveL wrote:Swarmlord should always have guard. Without them, he will die to shooting very quickly.

Do you mean Tyrant Guard?

no guard will get you a dead swarmlord

Unless he comes out of one of the trygon holes he will be standing with two other big things that are shielding him from view I need to think about how to convert some tyrant guard out of some warriors
the swarm lord will be my only metal fig if I can help it

The only lists I see having any chance of doing well are one of three. Either...

1. Out number your enemy like crazy.

2. Fast flying list.

3. Ninja assault.


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Additionally, I don't think you need to take the Primes, You could reduce these to standard Trygons and save yourself 80 points. I've tested these bad boys quite a bit. It's not often you do much with the 12 dice shooting, You just want him in combat asap. I would perhaps put Adrenal Glands on both if you have the spare points, otherwise just standard Trygons with regen, genrally, when they come in they survive the turn, if you can ensure more than one target pops up in the same turn even better. Then you get to regen, fleet and charge.

The reason the trygons are primes are to back up the gaunts when they get out of synapse range from the HQ and the tervigons it can happen when they move with onslaught.

True, fair comment, although I don't think you can rely on your Primes being in range or around for synapse purposes. Test it out in a few games and see how it works out for you.

You've already got a Swarmlord with an 18 inch range, plus the Tervigons that can go up to 18 inches if needed with Dominion.

Like I said ^ further up I might put in some fexes if they don't work out but at this point the horde of bugs costs about $850 god I hate hordes but they are bugs and they are hordy

Ok I have made some changes to the above list^

Swarm Lord 280

Tyrant guard Lash Whips 195

Tervigon Skytals, Adrenal Glands,Toxin Sacs, Regeneration, Catalyst, Onslaught 285

Tyranid Warrior Brood Deathspitters, Venom Cannon, Rending claws 160

Termagant Brood Devourers, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs 360

Termagant Brood Devourers, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs 360

Genestealer Brood 116
Brood Lord

Trygon Prime Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs, Regeneration 285

2001

Here's my thoughts:

Swarmlord is dead turn 1 with no protection and no duel threat they can just concentrate everything on him and at 2,000 points that is quite a lot.

Your Termagaunt Broods can't take spores as they are too big only units numbering 20 or fewer can take spores. 10 points for a T3 6+Sv model is it really worth it even for 3 shots?

Tervigons with no Toxin sacs what is the point in that? Likewise no catalyst seems a bit bizarre. Those big Gaunt broods would gain more from catalyst than onslaught as they'll reach the enemy in far greater numbers.

For your reboot above?

1 Tyrant Guard isn't really going top make the difference at 2,000 points you need to present the enemy with at least one other MC target that they will worry about in turn 1.

Is a Tervigon really worth more than a Swarmlord?

Venom cannons are poor the stranglethorne and barbed strangler are always the better option. I don't really see what the Warriors are actually doing in this list either seem to be doing what the Gaunts are for no real benefit. Get Hive Guard for transport popping they'll actually help you in this list.

12 points for a T3 6+Sv model?!?! You've well over spent on your termnagaunts. If you want Toxin and adrenal glands on them (and who wouldn't) just keep them near to your Tervigon(s). Otherwise they are simply not worth the points.

Genestealers without toxin?!?!?!?! Why would you ever do that? Why? 3 points for 50% extra killing serious how would you say no to that? It is about the most efficient points spend in the entire army list!

Again is the Trygon really worth more than a Swarmlord? Also only 1 Trygon is again asking for it to die without ever doing anything unless you plan to start it on the board?

Tervigon is only 245pts the way I have it there? It only gives the benefit of toxin or adrenal to spawned broods from the Tervigon. There are 3 tyrant guard there they don't cost 195pts each? Changed my mind on the pods I can't find any plasma hatchers so no pods and bigger broods to soak up the fire. Warriors have shadows of the warp and do not have instinctive behavior and are synapse. There will be 3 MCs on the table so I think they can survive a while and if they are concentrating all there fire on the MCs the Termagants will overwhelm them by turn 2. The only thing I am worried about is land raiders but that is why I have the Swarm lord. Trygon's are 200pts base with out the upgrades they are not cheap I might shave some points on a brood of termagants But the stealers are the cheapest unit that can actually do something for the points they cost I don't really like rippers. I could nix the brood lord to give them 46 more points hmmm That would give me 1 more stealer and adrenal glands, But then I would be 14pts short on total points.