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Four women, two of them well into middle age, were discussing funeral plans for a friend when an Atlanta police officer told them to move.
Three did but one asked “why.” In answer to her question, Minnie Carey, then 61, was handcuffed, put into a paddy wagon and taken to jail, where she was held for nine hours.
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“What we have here is an abuse of power. He abused his power of having a badge and a gun,” said Kirschenbaum. “That [now] 62-year-old woman got handcuffed, put in a paddy wagon and held in jail for nine hours."
Very simple story, not much too it. Sounds an awful lot like situations I have seen before.
I don't have anything personal against police, though I understand why many could (albeit lacking in general sense to feel that way). When it comes to authority figures who purposefully abuse their power, I could easily feel contempt for such people. Treating fully grown (and obviously mature socially) people as peons to be pushed around, from a position of power, is a pretty despicable thing.
How would all of you dealt with this situation? I understand that most would simply do as the officer had said, but what about the rest of you?
Two things that stuck out at me from this story:
1. He currently has other charges pending against him. I don't know what the other offenses are, but if he currently suspended without pay then he's probably not a good guy.
2. White Cop in a Black Neighborhood?
Not all cops are bad, but I hear more stories about cops screwing up then serving and protecting. Typical media focus in my opinion.
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The woman did one thing smart. She did not resist the arrest. She let him arrest her, and waited for her day in court.
To the OP, when a cop tells me to move a long, I do it. And yes i have had this happen several times. I have never heard of someone being arrested for doing what the officer tells them to do.
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On Dakka he was Eldanar. In our area, he was Lee. R.I.P., Lee Guthrie.
Best thing to do is to let the officer cuff you. To resist arrest, even if it was not warranted, still brings down trouble as then the judge will look at the situation and say "if you weren't doing anything to warrant getting handcuffed why did you fight it?".
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Wow what an asshat of a cop. I wonder how many 'public complaints' the average cop gets; this pig of a cop has 18 since 2001 and is already "suspended without pay for an unrelated incident". On top of that he's also a no-show when it comes to answering wtf he did: "Carey had three court dates – the first time her case was not heard because there was no prosecutor and the second and third times it was not heard because Dolson was not in court."
What a disgrace and he's taking a dump on the honorable and honest officers he's served with. Yeesh.
Now thats out of the way, if I was in that situation I would've asked in a professional manner: "Sir, may I ask why we have to move?" Then if he still brought out the cuffs I'd just bite the bullet and go on without making it worse. However afterwards I'd do everything (legally mind you) that I could to make sure that asshat loses his badge and hopefully does some time. /rage
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Cane wrote:Wow what an asshat of a cop. I wonder how many 'public complaints' the average cop gets; this pig of a cop has 18 since 2001 and is already "suspended without pay for an unrelated incident". On top of that he's also a no-show when it comes to answering wtf he did: "Carey had three court dates – the first time her case was not heard because there was no prosecutor and the second and third times it was not heard because Dolson was not in court."
What a disgrace and he's taking a dump on the honorable and honest officers he's served with. Yeesh.
Now thats out of the way, if I was in that situation I would've asked in a professional manner: "Sir, may I ask why we have to move?" Then if he still brought out the cuffs I'd just bite the bullet and go on without making it worse. However afterwards I'd do everything (legally mind you) that I could to make sure that asshat loses his badge and hopefully does some time. /rage
I see that we continue to be similar people.
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barlio wrote:Not all cops are bad, but I hear more stories about cops screwing up then serving and protecting. Typical media focus in my opinion.
That is because stories about Officer Johnson issuing 42 traffic citations and going home on time don't make for good headlines.
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Sure, but the point is that the media is doing what it ought to do in that situation. It isn't up to the media, certainly not the nightly news, to put individual stories into context, that's really up the viewer.
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Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
And to stay OT, some cops are just like that though. I once saw a police officer arrest a skateboarder because he was carrying his board across a paring lot. No joke. I was waiting for my wife, the kid comes out from some appartment place behind the grocery store, and the cop just whips over and cuffs the kid for having a skateboard in a no skateboarding zone.
Granted the kid could be one of those trouble maker types. But at that moment I didnt see him do anything wrong lol
Yes,but people shouldn't be arrested because they "might be one of those trouble maker types" or because they ask "why?" when told to "move along".
A kid carring a fething skateboard is not a crime,an elderly lady asking why she is being told to move along is not a crime.
These are cases of cops WAY over stepping the "powers" they have been GRANTED,and to attempt to make excuses for the cops is ridiculous (not directing that comment at you KC).
Police have a job to preform,and it's not an easy one,but these types of incidents (and many others) are WRONG,and the cops who comit these acts should be fired .
I'm not knocking all cops,but I have no respect for knuckle dragging halfwits with a badge and a gun who opperate under the concept that they are some sort of unquestionable god almighty.
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My thoughts exactly, FITZZ. Thankfully the police here tend to be more restrained.
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