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Os-khaman is my own made eldar special hero made of wraithguard

WS BS S T W I A Ld Sv

all still missing but what about starting whit wraitguard stats .....So i want you to give him stats and points and even upgrade him(he's made to jump to CC and flee from it quickly )

Wargear

Wraithcannon
inbuilt executioner
jump pack
runes of protection


Special rules

fleet of foot
hit and run
independent character
fearless
furious charge
rage
infiltrate
acute senses
eternal warrior
counter-attack

I don't know the stats for a Wraithguard, but that's a lot of special rules for one unit. How many points would he cost to field?

well warithguards stats are _________________________________________________________WS..4 BS...4 S...5 T...6 W...1 I...4 A...1 LD...10 SV...3+
I know thats alot of rules but its made to hit and run. Ill upgrade few stats that would me good=WS..7 BS...4 S...6 T...6 W...3 I...7 A...4 LD...10 SV...2+(<-SV, cause the runes of protection)


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oh the points maybe 150-275??

That is a lot of Special Rules how much is this guy going to cost?

probably 200-300 pts?

hmm that is a lot of points but then this is a ridiculously OP character. WS 7 + Rage + Furious Charge + Counter Attack + Acute Senses +Eternal Warrior!!!!!!

I'm not trying to be rude but I think your character is ridiculous personnaly I would refuse to play against it. Yous seem to have taken every good rule and added it to a character this is not really the way the game should work. There are few weaknesses and to top it off you have given him a 2+ save.

This character is not in any way feasable IMO

hmm...your right...but what would be good rules and stats for him Rules are those cuz i picked them in hurry so...

I would suggest a statline like this:

WS7 BS4 S4 T5 I 6 W3 A3 LD10

I have no idea about Eldar weapons so can't help there

Special Rules

Fleet, Eternal Warrior, Furious Charge

pts 200 (ish)

what do you think?

goggari wrote:well warithguards stats are _________________________________________________________WS..4 BS...4 S...5 T...6 W...1 I...4 A...1 LD...10 SV...3+
I know thats alot of rules but its made to hit and run. Ill upgrade few stats that would me good=WS..7 BS...4 S...6 T...6 W...3 I...7 A...4 LD...10 SV...2+(<-SV, cause the runes of protection)


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oh the points maybe 150-275??

That's really powerful, especially with the special rules. I'm not saying it's completely overpowered but I think it should cost around 325 points.

ed_bodger: well its there and there what i imagened but you removed hit and run and its probably most important rule on him(no offense)
Dedrith: from the comments i've started thinking its owerpowered but nice to have someone thinking that
SO
if he has stats that ed_bodger recomended and those rules what he has how much he should cost points?


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oh! i forgot to inform that its meant to be played with few friends and maybe with someone others aswell so...sorry 4 that

I love eldar, but I dont see how a big huge Wraith Lord is going to Infiltrate anywhere on the field, or have hit and run.

The Rage and Furious Charge and Stat Line were all good, but he shouldn't be supa fast or supa sneakies.

I think he should be made either versatile or super focused on melee.


Statline
WS..6 BS...5 S...6 T... W...3 I...5 A...3 LD...10 SV...3+(<-SV, cause the runes of protection)



Wargear

Always--
Wraithcannon
Runes of Protection

Mandatory 1 of--
ELM
BL
SC
SL
(Basically all weapons available to normal WL with the same point costs.)

or

Weapon Storage Pack (80 points.)


Optional

Huge Jet Pack (60 points)
Spiritseer Optics (Ignore Wraith Sight) (40 points)



Special Rules
Independent character
Fearless
Furious Charge
Counter-attack
Wraithsight

This is a little more believable.

I adjusted his statline to raise his Ballistic Skill but drop his Weapon Skill. His initiative was too high too, as was his armor save.

I took off some of his specials and wargear, but added something special. Give him a weapon storage pack that he can use in place of movement to swap out any of his weapons for any weapon allowed a Wraithlord. So take a move action to replace his Shuriken Cat with a sword. Or swap out his shoulder load in place of what he came in equipped with.

Some points:

I also think that just by virtue of being an Eldar Zombie he needs to have wraithsight unless he pays to have it removed.

The Jet Pack should be similar in cost to him as Wings are to a Nid Hive Tyrant or a demon.

He doesnt need fleet of foot. He's a MC and that template should still apply.

He should still be costly.

At least double the base cost of a normal Wraithlord for the extra abilities and improved stats.

90 x2 = 180.

Now building him..

Base Cost + Backpack + Jetpack + Optics = 320 points. He might still be too cheap. Compare him to a 320 point demon or similar built HQ choice. Is he overpowered or underpowered? Adjust and lab as neccessary, although I think that's a reasonable cost.

Ahem! err...well first of all he's not wraithlord he is wraithguard! there is a diffrence!!nah its cuz the quality of the picture right but still its pretty high for small based figure normally but he's on medium sized base but still i would suggest that the hit and run rule should'nt be removed
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the backround is something like this: hes ancient wraithguard and has mastered his new "shell" perfectly. he has choosed to stay alive for at least till eldar concuers the galaxy again.



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no offense

My mistake. I thought he was a wraithlord.


For a wraithguard even, Hit and Run and Infiltrate are still a stretch. Good luck though.

well everyone mistakes sometimes