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I have seen many people express their dislike of hawks a heap of times on dakka with no explanations.

usually along the lines of 'cut the hawks from your list, they suck' or 'don't get hawks'

I use up to three squads of hawks in my army, and think they are great

-great models
-great light infantry killers (masses of fire esp. with sunrifle; large blast marker on re-entry)
-great 'surprise!' tank killers (intercept + haywire grenades puts the odds in the favour of large squads blowing up anything)

I get the feeling most 'haters' expect them to be assault marines because they are jump infantry.

thoughts? responses?

Nightwatch wrote:

mal wrote:-great models

Yes.

Everything else: meh.

You can't assault vehicles after you intercept (DS rules).
The guns aren't all that great, actually.
They die VERY quickly for their points cost. It's not that the pooping hawks suck, it's just that everything else is better.

huh? the intercept special rule has nothing to do with Deep striking? in assault they always hit vehicles on a 4+

keep them in the air, in cover, or away from troop killers... (just like every other aspect warrior...)

Skyleap- yeah sounds better than it is (its more effective to keep them on the board IMHO); but always comes in handy when you'd rather not have them facing down a carnifex etc...

I have rarely seen them played well-

I have a theory that 'cool' looking models are more likely to seem dangerous to opponents than bland ones (and hence cop more heat).

Shaman wrote:They are like magpies only eldar.

they shouldn't be a problem then if you paint all your figures with red hair...