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Hey guys, I just picked up 20 grey knight marines at a great price and have made up a horribly vanilla list though you might be able to help me put a bit more excitement in it.

here it is

GREY KNIGHT HERO

BROTHER CAPTAIN APOPHIS W/ PSYCHIC HOOD & PSYCANNON

ELITES

BROTHER CAPTAIN PHAEDON W/ PSYCANNON
TERMINATOR X 4
PSYCANNON X 1
LAND RAIDER CRUSADER W/ MULTIMELTA

INQUISITOR FROST W/ BOLTGUN
HEAVY BOLTER SERVITOR X2

TROOPS

GREY KNIGHT JUSTICAR
GREY KNIGHT MARINE X 9
INCINIRATOR X 2

GREY KNIGHT JUSTICAR
GREY KNIGHT MARINE X 9
PSYCANNON X 2

INQUISITORIAL STORMTROOPERS X 6
FLAMER X 2
RHINO W/ STORM BOLTER & SMOKE LAUNCHERS

INQUISITORIAL STORMTROOPERS X 6
PLASMA GUN X 1
MELTA GUN X 1
RHINO W/ STORM BOLTER & SMOKE LAUNCHERS

HEAVY SUPPORT

LAND RAIDER

I have Dreadnaught with t/l lascannon and missile launcher , a bunch more IST and a chimera plus a cadian battleforce all painted up but I feel the marines will give my army a lot more durability ( so sick of seeing my IG allies getting massacred!)

Thanks for any C&C!

Cheers

BLACKHAND

Well in the absence of any feedback I thought I might add a post about how this list played in the two games I managed to squeeze in on the last gaming club day...

...and abysmally is how it played, in both games the marines were cut to pieces. Whether it was my tactics ( highly likely) or my opponents skills ( definitely in one case , not so much in the other) or ultimately the fact that I was only able to field half as much troops as my opponents (most definitely!!!) the GK marines did not go well and I kind of missed my IG allies as they at least had a lot of flavour.
At this point I may cut down on the Marines as if I drop even 1 10 man unit I can put an entire Ig platoon in so I may run the list that way for a while if only till the new Inquisitor codex is released ( yes I live in hope)

C&C is welcome as always

Cheers

BLACKHAND

let me know how it goes thamor, my advice is to run a couple of land raiders for anti tank and troop protection or at least a dread with lascannons and missiles, just to poop enemie armour, its probably a straight GK armies biggest weakness

I agree that at the moment allied guard are the way to go, my list at the moment is basically and entire IG army with a squad of Deepstriking GK Termies.
My only hope is that a new inquisition codex will arrive by the end of the year and it will clear up a lot of the inconsistincies in the GK list, namely the lack of anti tank, lack of troop carriers, the cost of units and the fact that the best way to kill daemons is not to have fancy psyker powers that are incredibly conditional but to simply be hard arsed motherf@$kers who can stand up to raging demon princes and smack them upside the head. At the moment it's pretty sad to see nurgle termies stand up to, and beat, the supposed emporer's finest, the GK terminator.

Or maybe thats just me

@corennus - I go for termies too, but another point would be too keep them mobile and get them into every firefight you can, every shot counts and while they may be safe in their landraider they are also not taking down units. So don't be afraid to pop them out and get them boltin'.

@Samus - A) stormtroopers look cool and A) at the moment yes, for 10 points the are not exceptional but hopefully the new codex will give them the AP3 hot shot lasgun as opposed to the crap hellgun and they will be on par with the IG Stormtroopers. (I know, I am an eternal optimist when it comes to the new codex )

Cheers

BLACKHAND

Dude, Corennus... you rock! even if I don't use the list I'm taking the squad names!
Happily I've picked up enough PAGK anc GK termies lately that I could probably put the list together (cept for the redeemers)

Soon as I've played my IG in an upcoming tournament I'll start playtesting the GK list or something very close to it.

Cheers

BLACKHAND

Never take out psycannons!

Sorry I just hate losing 1 of the 2 (fricken 2!) special weapons that the GK can take, I mean they are only the emporer's most highly trained, psykickly gifted and deadliest warriors. lets restrict them to two special weapons that are only a heavy bolter aqnd flamer with no invun saves.. oh and only let them have 1 type of transport (admittadly the biggest) and none of the flavour and variety that even the most vanilla space marines have.... oh do I sound a little bitter?

I guess the fact that GW gave the coolest SM figures ( GK termies FTW!) some of the weakest rules still gets to me, sorry again, rant over

My only hope, and I know I've said this before, is that the new inquisition codex will have even a fraction of the cool toys and rules that the new SW and BA codexs got, but we will have to wait till the end of the year...or next year...or the year after


Oh yeah Corennus, not much could stand up to 2 LRs but often the sight of a couple on the table is so intimidating that they become instant fire magnets, getting nailed before they can knock out any enemy armour. Ive found that a dread with some long range gear can sneak under my opponent's radar and have a chance at closiing down some armour.. a chance .

Sorry for the wall of text guys, its just cool to get some feedback on the army lists forums for once!

The plastics will come eventually, if only because people want them as conversion fodder.

Take the BA sanguinary guard for example, the kit comes with so much extra peices its basically made for conversions.

Part of the reason the metals look smaller is that they don't have the cowling behind the head that normal termies have but they make up for it by being Fricken Cool.

About the LRs, I take a godhammer for its lascannons and a crusader for its hurricane bolters (termies love assualting after a hurricane barrage!) but I ALWAYS forget about it's machine spirit! I take the extra BS2 shots but I forhet about the self repair ( they do get self repair like marine rhinos right?)

Tactics wise I have been using allied guard to plug some of the gaps in the GK list but the hope of this thread was to find a way to make a useful list for a pure GK army, which seems to be to wait till the new codex!

Oh and thanks for the link Mookie I've seen the thread before and it helped a lot with my list building, I always like to get some input from the dakka brain trust too though