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My wishlist would be a new Dao Fei or Guilang for Yu Jing. Apart from the basoic Remotes, they're the last 1st edition minis still on sale for Yu Jing, and the Dao Fei looks a little titchy now.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
My wishlist would be a new Dao Fei or Guilang for Yu Jing. Apart from the basoic Remotes, they're the last 1st edition minis still on sale for Yu Jing, and the Dao Fei looks a little titchy now.

Dao Fei & Guilang were unfortunately not included in IA. (I know, wait for the Svarlheima sectorial.) Doesnt mean they shouldn't be updated. The beyond Red Veil resculpts are probably all we're getting. Looks like they have invented some new stuff to fill those infiltration roles for IA; Profiles yet to be seen.
I am pretty disappointed that Sun Tze isnt in IA.

It would be very nice if they made resculpting the old remotes an ongoing priority. I have held off on them for years now because they're just awful right now.

The bigger ones could do with a change - the equipment doesn't seem very well integrated - but the original ones are fine, I think. Although if they ended up looking similar to the Siu Jian moibility form again, that'd be cool.

I played against a Sun Tze "Invincible" army 2 weeks ago...
Not being able to have a reserve model and him having 2 reserve models which were both HI was so advantageous counter deploying with 2 Yan Huo was tough...

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:
Do we have more on upcoming releases?

Tunguska still needs a bunch of stuff and we're already onto Varuna & IA.
Where is the feuerbach securitate? That's the one was all want to use. Are we still going to get a Grenzer box?

Personal wish list also includes a new senior massacre & non-exclusive sculpt for the wardriver

There's a few things we've seen renders for that feel like probable Nov releases. The Securitate box is certainly an oddity that makes the getting what Tunguska needs feel like its a long ways off. At the moment though, I'm hoping to see some of the vanilla and StarCo singles. Moon Knight, Ms. Problems, and the Zondnautica are the top of my wishlist.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
My wishlist would be a new Dao Fei or Guilang for Yu Jing. Apart from the basoic Remotes, they're the last 1st edition minis still on sale for Yu Jing, and the Dao Fei looks a little titchy now.

YJ releases for a while will most likely just be Invincible Army stuff, so won’t see them for a while.

 LunarSol wrote:

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:
Do we have more on upcoming releases?

Tunguska still needs a bunch of stuff and we're already onto Varuna & IA.
Where is the feuerbach securitate? That's the one was all want to use. Are we still going to get a Grenzer box?

Personal wish list also includes a new senior massacre & non-exclusive sculpt for the wardriver

There's a few things we've seen renders for that feel like probable Nov releases. The Securitate box is certainly an oddity that makes the getting what Tunguska needs feel like its a long ways off. At the moment though, I'm hoping to see some of the vanilla and StarCo singles. Moon Knight, Ms. Problems, and the Zondnautica are the top of my wishlist.

Brawlers are a glaring omission. Unless we are just supposed to always proxy them. I wouldnt be surprised if that was expected since they're a catch all merc profile.

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:
Do we have more on upcoming releases?

Tunguska still needs a bunch of stuff and we're already onto Varuna & IA.
Where is the feuerbach securitate? That's the one was all want to use. Are we still going to get a Grenzer box?

Personal wish list also includes a new senior massacre & non-exclusive sculpt for the wardriver

There's a few things we've seen renders for that feel like probable Nov releases. The Securitate box is certainly an oddity that makes the getting what Tunguska needs feel like its a long ways off. At the moment though, I'm hoping to see some of the vanilla and StarCo singles. Moon Knight, Ms. Problems, and the Zondnautica are the top of my wishlist.

Brawlers are a glaring omission. Unless we are just supposed to always proxy them. I wouldnt be surprised if that was expected since they're a catch all merc profile.

That's true. I have the uprising one, but there's a major need for the MSV Sniper model. I'd also like a non-exclusive CSU with a Rifle since the boarding shotgun isn't super useful. That's an easy proxy though, for hte reasons mentioned.

Will be nice to get a new Shang Ji. That one is way overdue. Hopefully the profile is spruced up too. They’re supposed to be the most advanced HI and all, but updates to all HI since N3 have rendered them avg at best.

We got a new Daofei in the Beyond red Veil box, it just wasn't well received.

As for Guilang - the combi rifle one is one fo the few old sculpts which still stand up to the current batch. ut I got bored of waiting for another sculpt, so I have a .... I don't know, Heckler I think, in a box as a stand in. I don't play Nomads, but it's coat and plain faceplate reminded me of the Guilang.

If we're wish listing...
300 pts of 100% new Shasvastii...
Including a Spinx in the Box... because this is wish listing

And I hope that when they update the army they give the Sphinx second weapon option besides just the Spitfire... what a fantastic unit it is never let me down ever...
All three times I played with it...

6/6 On a Size 6- BS 14 Climbing Plus MultiTerrain TO camo unit... did I Mention Twin Heavy Flamers and An Explosion Close Combat Weapon (Anti material=Jobs Done) on a 4 ft being able to move 1 ft for 1 order to almost Anywhere is in incredible advantage... and being able to hidden deploy said unit please let me get Duo!

But seriously I think the revamp of Shasvastii is all I'm looking forward to...

 .Mikes. wrote:
We got a new Daofei in the Beyond red Veil box, it just wasn't well received.

Did we? I own that box, but haven't properly looked at what's in it.

edit: Looks fine from here, other than the tactical masonry. Don't see what the problem would be. And a Guilang, too. That would explain why the old multi-rifle one is still on sale but not the sniper.

For the Invincible Army, I take it Zuyongs are the basic infantry? If there's any new ones, I wonder what size they'll be?

 5deadly wrote:
If we're wish listing...
300 pts of 100% new Shasvastii...
Including a Spinx in the Box... because this is wish listing

And I hope that when they update the army they give the Sphinx second weapon option besides just the Spitfire... what a fantastic unit it is never let me down ever...
All three times I played with it...

6/6 On a Size 6- BS 14 Climbing Plus MultiTerrain TO camo unit... did I Mention Twin Heavy Flamers and An Explosion Close Combat Weapon (Anti material=Jobs Done) on a 4 ft being able to move 1 ft for 1 order to almost Anywhere is in incredible advantage... and being able to hidden deploy said unit please let me get Duo!

But seriously I think the revamp of Shasvastii is all I'm looking forward to...

IIRC CB released a list of all the Shas skus they're discontinuing, & Sphinx was not on it. I don't think they're going to resculpt it anytime soon. The model is great. The pose is ... confusing and I never liked it.


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 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 .Mikes. wrote:
We got a new Daofei in the Beyond red Veil box, it just wasn't well received.

Did we? I own that box, but haven't properly looked at what's in it.

edit: Looks fine from here, other than the tactical masonry. Don't see what the problem would be. And a Guilang, too. That would explain why the old multi-rifle one is still on sale but not the sniper.

For the Invincible Army, I take it Zuyongs are the basic infantry? If there's any new ones, I wonder what size they'll be?

The pose on the Beyond Red Veil Daofei is lousy. Its lifeless and boring like far too many of CBs new releases. I wouldnt expect another daofei until Svarlheima is out.

Been waiting for a zuyong box for some time now. But I have a feeling they will be in the IA starter instead because there are only 3 profiles left that we dont have sculpts for. They could always make more profiles tho... their current choices are pretty mundane.

When is the Autocannon Kurgat coming out?

I like that daofei. I'd prefer both feet on the ground, but it's better than the awkwardly twisting female Domaru Butai or the Hsien with multi rifle, in any case.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
I like that daofei. I'd prefer both feet on the ground, but it's better than the awkwardly twisting female Domaru Butai or the Hsien with multi rifle, in any case.

IDK why so many models get that bizarre twisted pose.
However, they often are too worried about obscruing the detail on the body of the model and we end up with a really bland pose where everything is visible.
Need more stuff like the sneaky zero.
Or the old quirky stuff like the weirdo old Nomads with lifted knees (Spektre sniper & old Mobile Brigada) and the old Haqq guys resting their rifle on the arm (Djanbazan sniper or old old Janissary AP rifle)
Far too many models coming out with utterly lifeless poses

Long rant, not a huge problem really


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Wonder how may characters will get wildcard fireteam options...

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 .Mikes. wrote:
We got a new Daofei in the Beyond red Veil box, it just wasn't well received.

Did we? I own that box, but haven't properly looked at what's in it.

edit: Looks fine from here, other than the tactical masonry. Don't see what the problem would be. And a Guilang, too. That would explain why the old multi-rifle one is still on sale but not the sniper.

I don't mind it that much either, but I understand why some don't. Also some were disappointed that the guilang was the sniper when the most popular units have the combi.

I am really surprised that more of these models we have armed with their backup weapon that have their primary on their back don't come with a couple primaries to swap out on that back slot. The recent CSU is probably the standout example for me currently, but I've run into several models lately where I've wondered.

 LunarSol wrote:
I am really surprised that more of these models we have armed with their backup weapon that have their primary on their back don't come with a couple primaries to swap out on that back slot. The recent CSU is probably the standout example for me currently, but I've run into several models lately where I've wondered.

Their answer is the proxy rules I think. You really shouldn’t need to buy multiples of the same SKU to play this game. Who really wants to field a force with the same mini over and over anyway?


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 .Mikes. wrote:

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 .Mikes. wrote:
We got a new Daofei in the Beyond red Veil box, it just wasn't well received.

Did we? I own that box, but haven't properly looked at what's in it.

edit: Looks fine from here, other than the tactical masonry. Don't see what the problem would be. And a Guilang, too. That would explain why the old multi-rifle one is still on sale but not the sniper.

I don't mind it that much either, but I understand why some don't. Also some were disappointed that the guilang was the sniper when the most popular units have the combi.

They’ll put it in the Svarlheima starter and make it an instant buy for most Yu Jing players

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
I am really surprised that more of these models we have armed with their backup weapon that have their primary on their back don't come with a couple primaries to swap out on that back slot. The recent CSU is probably the standout example for me currently, but I've run into several models lately where I've wondered.

Their answer is the proxy rules I think. You really shouldn’t need to buy multiples of the same SKU to play this game. Who really wants to field a force with the same mini over and over anyway?

Their generous proxy rules are nice on some level, but at this point they've kinda become an excuse for CB to not release certain profiles, or not release models that can be given different weapon options.

All from a company that moans and whines about their SKU bloat, while also making pet project models that nobody asked for.

So a bit of poking around and... These may be the December releases:




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-Dakini SWC Box and the Deva included to make 4 minis
-Kurgat Autocannon
-Odalisque Spitfire
-Securitate SWC box with Grenzer ( Because no one, not ever, will buy a Grenzer, blister or box)
-Zulu Cobra

Yes, I've borrowed from the Official Forums... Credit to TenNoBushi for his post.

I need to see how that hair on the Deva works out.

Edit to fix the image links.

We saw the renders fr the Dakinis along with Coldfront, so they're not surprising, but they are welcome.

Is the Daikini box coming with a Deva? I hadn't heard that.

 jake wrote:
Is the Daikini box coming with a Deva? I hadn't heard that.

It’s speculation, nothing confirmed yet.

 Grey Templar wrote:

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
I am really surprised that more of these models we have armed with their backup weapon that have their primary on their back don't come with a couple primaries to swap out on that back slot. The recent CSU is probably the standout example for me currently, but I've run into several models lately where I've wondered.

Their answer is the proxy rules I think. You really shouldn’t need to buy multiples of the same SKU to play this game. Who really wants to field a force with the same mini over and over anyway?

Their generous proxy rules are nice on some level, but at this point they've kinda become an excuse for CB to not release certain profiles, or not release models that can be given different weapon options.

All from a company that moans and whines about their SKU bloat, while also making pet project models that nobody asked for.

It's a rough balance to strike.
We want models for all the profiles. Sometimes multiples for one or two commonly used profiles. Especially for competition.
But the charm that got me into infinity was how the models were each unique and quirky. The older models had more life to them. Some were awful, those that are still for sale are amazing.
After decades of assembling thousands of GW minis in the same configuration it was refreshing to get into a game where each mini was an individual. Some derpy and lumpy, others dynamic and brilliant.


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 ImAGeek wrote:

 jake wrote:
Is the Daikini box coming with a Deva? I hadn't heard that.

It’s speculation, nothing confirmed yet.

It would make sense wouldn't it?
Do we know if old Deva SKUs are being discontinued?
I know they're not that old, but the existing Devas are mediocre at best. Spitfire one is the only one I like.
You could really release a box of 4 devas (or redo the devabot box) on their own as well.


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Grenzer box is just inevitable.
We need boarding shotty, ML, Spitfire. You know, the profiles everyone wants
Maybe they'll put the Feuerbach securitate in that, since the combi rifle grenzer got lost and found his way into their box instead?

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
I am really surprised that more of these models we have armed with their backup weapon that have their primary on their back don't come with a couple primaries to swap out on that back slot. The recent CSU is probably the standout example for me currently, but I've run into several models lately where I've wondered.

Their answer is the proxy rules I think. You really shouldn’t need to buy multiples of the same SKU to play this game. Who really wants to field a force with the same mini over and over anyway?

If I want to field a unit, I'll use the correct model or not at all. If the CSU came with weapon options, I'd buy three. As it is, since the one I want doesn't have a model I won't buy any. Apparently I'm in the minority. Proxy rules are a kludge, not a solution. I mean, if that's their attitude, I'll go one further and simply get wooden dowl cut to the right length with a photo of the mini glued to the front; cheaper, easier, and better for gameplay since the playing piece is its own silhouette marker.

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:



Do we know if old Deva SKUs are being discontinued?
I know they're not that old, but the existing Devas are mediocre at best. Spitfire one is the only one I like

I really love the classic Deva with the combi rifle over her shoulder. She's the model that convinced me to play Aleph. But I'm not a fan of any of the other Devas. the male ones (including the new one) just look silly to me, and the other female one (with the Devabot) was such a poor pose. I like the new Team Rocket one though. I hope we get a similarly sexy male James to partner with her.


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 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
I am really surprised that more of these models we have armed with their backup weapon that have their primary on their back don't come with a couple primaries to swap out on that back slot. The recent CSU is probably the standout example for me currently, but I've run into several models lately where I've wondered.

Their answer is the proxy rules I think. You really shouldn’t need to buy multiples of the same SKU to play this game. Who really wants to field a force with the same mini over and over anyway?

If I want to field a unit, I'll use the correct model or not at all. If the CSU came with weapon options, I'd buy three. As it is, since the one I want doesn't have a model I won't buy any. Apparently I'm in the minority. Proxy rules are a kludge, not a solution.

I mostly agree. I mean, I understand that reality of the situation, but I vastly prefer to field the correct models with the correct loadouts. or put another way, I only ever use models I like, so if a model doesn't exists for a profile it won't show up in my army (in most cases. Sometimes I come up with a conversion I like). Using a stand in is really unappealing (usually) for me and kind of defeats the purpose of playing a miniatures game (for me). I don't really expect to be able to hold my opponents to the same standard (everyone plays for different reasons), but its always disappointing to play against someone who just dumps 13 random Nomad models on the table and says "Today I'm playing Combined army. Lets see... this is a Q-Drone, and this is a Shrouded... Do you have any large bases I can borrow?"

It really hurts at competitive levels where you have to constantly ask what each model in your opponents army is.

 jake wrote:

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:



Do we know if old Deva SKUs are being discontinued?
I know they're not that old, but the existing Devas are mediocre at best. Spitfire one is the only one I like

I really love the classic Deva with the combi rifle over her shoulder. She's the model that convinced me to play Aleph. But I'm not a fan of any of the other Devas. the male ones (including the new one) just look silly to me, and the other female one (with the Devabot) was such a poor pose. I like the new Team Rocket one though. I hope we get a similarly sexy male James to partner with her.


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 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
I am really surprised that more of these models we have armed with their backup weapon that have their primary on their back don't come with a couple primaries to swap out on that back slot. The recent CSU is probably the standout example for me currently, but I've run into several models lately where I've wondered.

Their answer is the proxy rules I think. You really shouldn’t need to buy multiples of the same SKU to play this game. Who really wants to field a force with the same mini over and over anyway?

If I want to field a unit, I'll use the correct model or not at all. If the CSU came with weapon options, I'd buy three. As it is, since the one I want doesn't have a model I won't buy any. Apparently I'm in the minority. Proxy rules are a kludge, not a solution.

I mostly agree. I mean, I understand that reality of the situation, but I vastly prefer to field the correct models with the correct loadouts. or put another way, I only ever use models I like, so if a model doesn't exists for a profile it won't show up in my army (in most cases. Sometimes I come up with a conversion I like). Using a stand in is really unappealing (usually) for me and kind of defeats the purpose of playing a miniatures game (for me). I don't really expect to be able to hold my opponents to the same standard (everyone plays for different reasons), but its always disappointing to play against someone who just dumps 13 random Nomad models on the table and says "Today I'm playing Combined army. Lets see... this is a Q-Drone, and this is a Shrouded... Do you have any large bases I can borrow?"

Has that actually happened to you? Does this really happen out there in the infinity world?
I understand the proxy rules are purposely totally open, but you gotta be a real douche to do a wholesale substitution like that.



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 Grey Templar wrote:
It really hurts at competitive levels where you have to constantly ask what each model in your opponents army is.

It hurts at any level.
Even if people use correct models sometimes it’s hard.
I have a hard time with Aleph Non-Greek models. They’re all just guys/gals with a Swiss Army knife robot arm to me.

HB Farzan, Muyib, Barid all look a lot alike ... dude wearing baggy pants, flak jacket, and that same helmet carrying a gun just standing around. Especially when they’re not painted.

I know my friend can’t for the life of him tell my Nomads apart. So many can be described as: Dude with chrome dome helmet. Hellcat, Tomcat, Wildcat... it’s some sort of cat just deal with it, oh but that one is a prowler, and that’s a zero can’t you tell?!

This is why I will only ever proxy stuff if there is no model or MAYBE if I need a 2nd on a profile we will only ever get one model for.

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:


Has that actually happened to you? Does this really happen out there in the infinity world?
I understand the proxy rules are purposely totally open, but you gotta be a real douche to do a wholesale substitution like that.

Yeah. when I was still running events we had two different guys who would regularly show up with lists and either a random selection of models or just ask people if they could borrow whatever extra models they had. One of them was a pretty accommodating person and would go out of his way to try to make sure you knew what he was taking. The other played a 20+ order Ariadna list and liked to take advantage of the confusion. The Ariadna guy was especially frustrating because he owned all the models he needed, he just didn't bother using them. Or worse, he would use them but as proxies for other things. Like "This grunt is a Foxtrot, and this Minuteman is a Grunt and this Foxtrot is also a Grunt and this other grunt is a Minuteman." He'd really take advantage of that to confuse people. Eventually no one liked playing with him.