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Made in us
Combat Jumping Ragik






Beyond the Beltway

Sweet! Nonetheless, good thing I have a jeweler's saw. Sword boy will probably be painted as a Montesa. I can always use my Father-Knight from Icestorm as a 4th Hospitaller. Or 5th.

They are very nice.


 
   
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Melbourne, Australia

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Jeez, I'd forgotten how much tactical junk they were on. Will do a fair bit of sawing on those under-feet.


Looks like Angel CBFed with that either. Just did the standard PanO base with a rock on.

The galaxy is littered with the single-planet graveyards of civilisations which made the economically sensible decision not to explore space. 
   
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Really nice looking, not sure whey they went so much overboard with tactical junk...

almost tempted to start PanO MO, nut this link + joan...that's around 200pts for 5 models...yea, which to begin with ain't that great, will be wrecked in cc by specialists, and also outshoot by specialist...so I ma not sure about their role?

If you wanna go HI rute, yu jing does it better, Wu Ming link team for 160pts has better firepower across all bands(ALL FROM HMG, HRL, shotgun,chainrifle,submachine gun), and only -1BS, but you do gain -6 to hacking attempts because of deflector.
You do have better cc, but let's face it, it's not like knight's cc will save you if someone who wants to enter cc enters...for everything else, it's simply more viable too shoot it down.

So why go knights route instead of yu jing?

   
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Thermo-Optical Spekter





Greece

The Hospitalers full link is one of the most powerful parts of MO, cheaper with 3 magister for sure, but more robust with full hospitalers.

Got a specialist if the form of the doc, an HMG for intermediate ranges, a killer BS and a decent CC protection with Joan.
   
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But you get better firepower with Wu Ming, cheaper and can add KHD ninja, still be cheaper(get extra order&specialist that starts midfield in TO), and have hacker killing power + same cc capability as with joan in link...
   
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Greece

You are talking on a wider army list now not purely as link teams, yes, MO are quite restricted in selection, they more brute force their way to victory.
   
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Svalarheima, MA

One of them looks like he had his hover board melted into slag while he was riding it...

I like the models though, but that aspect of PanO has never appealed to me.

I'll take ORCs and Jotums!

Nil nos tremefacit.
 
   
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 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Jeez, I'd forgotten how much tactical junk they were on. Will do a fair bit of sawing on those under-feet.

Apparently it's the "in" thing for Svalarheima models. We need to know there's mountains there somehow, right?
   
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Greece

I guess? it was really mentioned as a reason, snow effects ectr...
   
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Beyond the Beltway

 Alpharius wrote:
One of them looks like he had his hover board melted into slag while he was riding it...

I like the models though, but that aspect of PanO has never appealed to me.

I'll take ORCs and Jotums!

These are ORCs all grown up They'll be in the Svalarheim Sectorial. Knights in small numbers are fun units to have on the table. The Montesa for example.


 
   
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 Red Harvest wrote:
 Alpharius wrote:
One of them looks like he had his hover board melted into slag while he was riding it...

I like the models though, but that aspect of PanO has never appealed to me.

I'll take ORCs and Jotums!

These are ORCs all grown up They'll be in the Svalarheim Sectorial. Knights in small numbers are fun units to have on the table. The Montesa for example.

Knights have their own Sectorial. I would personally prefer they keep them there.

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Beyond the Beltway

Feth no.


 
   
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Feth yes! It's bad enough that we're going to get Fusiliers jammed in there like we did with NCA.
   
Made in us
Combat Jumping Ragik






Beyond the Beltway

I happen to like having the Montesa in my ASA. I'm certain to like having Hospitallers in Svalarheim. I also like the Nagas in ASA too. If CB puts something interesting from ALEPH into Svalarheim, it'll probably be good too.

Fusiliers can go die in a hole.


 
   
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 Red Harvest wrote:
I happen to like having the Montesa in my ASA. I'm certain to like having Hospitallers in Svalarheim. I also like the Nagas in ASA too. If CB puts something interesting from ALEPH into Svalarheim, it'll probably be good too.

The problem is that Hospitalers are going to end up being a crutch for the design team, I can basically guarantee it. They're going to completely screw everything up with regards to any interesting or uniquely Svalarheim units because they had to fit their faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaavoritest Knights and the character to go with them(Joan of Arc) in there.
We won't get ORC Link Teams because "you have Hospitallers!". It's the same garbage reasoning as to why Neoterra, the high tech Sectorial of PanOceania has freaking AVA 3 on ORCs while not having the Duo option that ASA has and why Bolts don't have Haris while the Bagh-Mari do.

"Your Sectorial has too many options that are really good!"
Fusiliers can go die in a hole.

100% agreement.

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Beyond the Beltway

Well, that is a reasonable concern. However, Jeanne D'Arc, I do not see her in Svalarheim. She seems MO only. CB could very well get lazy about fleshing out Svalarheim and include her, but I think they'll go with a nordic character of some sort instead. More minis to sell. Ogier the Dane would be a good choice.

I see the Hospitallers in the same role as Montesas. AVA 2, Fireteam: Duo and done. There will be linkable ORCs. There will not be a nice HI like the Guarda. ORCs really don't belong is ASA, IMHO.

Sadly, I do see the fusiliers showing up. Svalarheim would be much nicer with its own LI choice. I hope that I'm wrong here. The other sectorials have theirs, Regulars, Order Sergeants, Auxilia. And Fusiliers to Varuna, IIRC.

OTOH, Svalarheim could get shafted because Varuna reasons. >:|

I think that we will learn more during/after Adepticon.

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Greece

When Hospitalers have their HQ fortress monastery set up in Svalarheima from the first fluff of Infinity, explaign to me how they are "Shoved in Svalarheima" it s their planet from the start, before sectorials were even a remote idea.
   
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I have to admit, I find what units work in which sectorial very confusing when it comes to PanO.
   
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 Red Harvest wrote:
Well, that is a reasonable concern. However, Jeanne D'Arc, I do not see her in Svalarheim. She seems MO only. CB could very well get lazy about fleshing out Svalarheim and include her, but I think they'll go with a nordic character of some sort instead. More minis to sell. Ogier the Dane would be a good choice.

They said that her being released was to be part of the "Death Star of Doom" and they hinted that it "wouldn't be MO only".

I see the Hospitallers in the same role as Montesas. AVA 2, Fireteam: Duo and done. There will be linkable ORCs. There will not be a nice HI like the Guarda. ORCs really don't belong is ASA, IMHO.

Linkable ORCs in any big numbers are in Varuna. That's the whole reason they didn't release a box yet; they said the box was waiting for Varuna which "has special ORC loadouts".

Sadly, I do see the fusiliers showing up. Svalarheim would be much nicer with its own LI choice. I hope that I'm wrong here. The other sectorials have theirs, Regulars, Order Sergeants, Auxilia. And Fusiliers to Varuna, IIRC.

Fusiliers technically are present everywhere, but the problem is that each world/sectorial is also supposed to have their own flavor of them. Regulars are the leftovers of their Fusiliers from Paradiso. Order Sergeants are made up from citizens of all walks of life(including ex-military) trying to earn resurrection credits by serving as part of the Church's Military Orders. Auxilia are supposed to be their "Fusilier Lite" equivalent but remember that they don't Link so can't really be compared to Fusiliers, Regulars, or Order Sergeants.

OTOH, Svalarheim could get shafted because Varuna reasons. >:|

I think that we will learn more during/after Adepticon.

Ehhh. I hope we don't. We know they basically had us playtesting their Svalarheima list last year. It was less than impressive.
   
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Luton, UK

I have to admit, I find what units work in which sectorial very confusing when it comes to PanO.


The concept is simple enough. Each planet has its own defence force, and any planet that hosts the HQ of a Knightly Order can bring in some of those as well. Some planets host ALEPH units for training or liaison purposes too.

I'm sort of okay now with the idea of Fusiliers and ORCs being the standard line trooper of the PanO military complex and available to all the sectorials as their filler units (not that I use ORCs). Sure it's not all that exciting but they exist as no-frills no-skill units with a bevy of very standardised weaponry which sort of seems like a PanO thing that would be used to supplement local specialised forces.

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“The wicked will believe they are fighting for good. But when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.”
 
   
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Right behind you.

Edit: I'm gonna go start a thread down in the Infinity section. That place needs some foot traffic, this is as good of a conversation to maybe bring some as any!

Thread started!

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Feth yiiis!
   
Made in us
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Beyond the Beltway

Gollum? That you?

A sniper shot of Bit


Maybe we see the complete mini soon.


 
   
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GMG has a preview video of Bit & KISS!

Eh. Not bad.
   
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Svalarheima, MA

I boycott all of CB's "Officially Sponsored Videos" on principle.

I'm waiting for pictures..

Nil nos tremefacit.
 
   
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So below Kiss says SMG, while actually he has adhesive launcher.
   
Made in us
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Beyond the Beltway

Standard Operating Procedure, mislabelling like that. Nothing to see here. Move along...

Bit looks interesting enough. Hair not so good. Paint Job not so good. The latter may be detracting from the former. Kiss has the right look for a CA remote. Somewhat Largish for a G:Servant. Even for an S2.

Still to come:
-Kuang Shi Box
-Garuda with Boarding Shotgun
-Irmandiños

and the re-packs. We've already seen a new Garuda, so no surprises there. The other two...

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So it looks like "Was she Sepsitorized or not? Was Ko Dali?" is finally answered...

Guerilla Miniatures Gaming wrote:Carlos from CB has sent along another exclusive preview; this time it's the first willing Human Combined Army troopers, Bit&Kiss!



Automatically Appended Next Post:
Kuang Shi got posted to Mayacast's facebook page.

Someone else can rehost & post.

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Calgary, Great White North

KUANG SHI!!!

Finally, they figured out that chain rifles require both hands to carry.

https://mayacast.com/2018/01/16/mayacast-preview-kuang-shi/

   
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