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Has anybody heard the rumors about MW5 because it is expected in a few months because apparently it is the last in the MW series because they have worked backwards and are ending the games on 3055 where there was no clans or even no houses like steiner, not even the Ghost Bear Legion :(

this forum is open to anybody.

Oh what so i have to play them again but starting with MW5 to get the whole story GREAT!

Yer sorry shas'la

Tau Headhunter wrote:

this forum is open to anybody.

Indeed it is. Thanks.

moving to video games board.

Thanks alot red it does say in the title "Rumors" that is why i posted it in the rumor section

The description for the 'News and Rumours' section specifically states that it's for wargaming-related news and rumours.

yer and MW5 is a wargame on board and PC

Tau Headhunter wrote:Has anybody heard the rumors about MW5 because it is expected in a few months because apparently it is the last in the MW series because they have worked backwards and are ending the games on 3055 where there was no clans or even no houses like steiner, not even the Ghost Bear Legion :(

this forum is open to anybody.

Open to anybody? Are you certain, because there's some real numpties out there.


Meanwhile, I have no idea what you're trying to say above. When you say they're 'working backwards' do you mean they're restarting from 3015 or thereabouts, as other rumours have said? And what does 'ending the game on 3055 when there was no...' mean? All those forces existed at the end of 3055.

What are you talking about?

3055 is 5 years after the start of the invasion of the Clans, so those would be around, and so would house Steiner and Clan Ghost Bear.

The rumour is already quite old btw and there are already pics and a few movies up. The coolest movie can be found on sites like youtube, like here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJU4iA4TWIs

The use of the Warhammer mech immediately raised legal issues though: http://pc.ign.com/articles/102/1021438p1.html

As you'll notice from the movie it says '3015'. Which would indeed make it before the Clan invasion (House Steiner still around, though apparantly the story will be a Davion vs Kurita setting completely based on 1 planet).

I also didn't get the comment from 'having to play through all 4 previous ones', there's not really a storyline connecting those games apart from the general Battletech fluff. You can easily play any one of them without any knowledge of the others and you wouldn't 'miss out'.

Anywayz, I hope it will actually come to fruition and be awesome because I've been wanting some stompy mech action for quite some time now!

OMG you noobs mechwarrior the first one starts in 3258 just after the clans fall MW2 is set in 3144 where wolf and lade falcon joined the clanners, MW3 is in 3084 where the inner sphere is conering smoke jaguar, MW4 is in 3072 where the 5th donavan are on a revenge spree agains the royal mech commanders.
Now MW5 is set in 3055 where no clans or the inner sphere exists and because of that it is all VS all except from a few friends who banded a group again the forces of the royal hunters.
I would know because i have been folowing the progress of MW5's creation so dont tell me what i already know ir right.

Any arguments?
PM me and i will put you in the place where the history of Mechwarrior is set

Tau Headhunter wrote:OMG you noobs mechwarrior the first one starts in 3258 just after the clans fall MW2 is set in 3144 where wolf and lade falcon joined the clanners, MW3 is in 3084 where the inner sphere is conering smoke jaguar, MW4 is in 3072 where the 5th donavan are on a revenge spree agains the royal mech commanders.
Now MW5 is set in 3055 where no clans or the inner sphere exists and because of that it is all VS all except from a few friends who banded a group again the forces of the royal hunters.
I would know because i have been folowing the progress of MW5's creation so dont tell me what i already know ir right.

Any arguments?
PM me and i will put you in the place where the history of Mechwarrior is set

Is your entire exposure to Mechwarrior from the video games? I ask because I can see how you might get confused, the video games don't focus on the timeline of events as heavily as the tabletop game does.

The first Mechwarrior is set in 3024, before the Clan invasion and deals only with internal Inner Sphere politics. Its an entirely self contained story, although it does reference more notable events and characters, and concludes during the Fourth Succession War.

The second Mechwarrior is set in 3057, and follows the story of the refusal war, an internal struggle between the pre-eminent Clans of Wolf and Jade Falcon as to whether the Clans should accept their defeat at Tukkayid and halt their invasion of the Inner Sphere. By the by, no-one 'joined' the clans... Wolf and Jade Falcon are Clans, descendants of Kerensky's SLDF that left the Inner Sphere in 2784, only to return in 3050 as the invading Clans.

Mechwarrior 2 - Mercenaries is set from 3044 to 3052, and basically allows the player to take contracts representing the border skirmishes of the Great Houses, until the clans invade in 3050. The game ends with the player taking part in the Battle of Luthien, a decisive Inner Sphere victory that led to the clans accepting to fight the Battle of Tukkayid.

Mechwarrior 3 is set in 3058. Looking to prove to the Clans that the new Star League was legitimate, Operations Bulldog and Serpent are formed, the first would destroy the forces of the Smoke Jaguar clan in the Inner Sphere, the second would attack the clan's homeworld. The game is set during Operation Serpent, and the player is one of the invaders of the Smoke Jaguar homeworld of Huntress.

Mechwarrior 4 is set 3061, after Victor Hanse Davion has secured peace with the Clans. Being a wargame setting though, there's always another fight around the corner and now the issue is the collapse of the Federated Commonwealth (the most powerful Inner Sphere faction) into civil war. The game focusses on a single planet, where a coup was engineered by nobles attached to Katrina Steiner Davion, one of the two siblings vying for control of the Federated Commonwealth.


Meanwhile, the dates you gave were nonsense. Classic Battletech ends with the FedCom civil war in 3067. From there you have a hazy list of events, before Mechwarrior Dark Age picks up in 3130. No computer game has been set in the Dark Ages period, or any time since. The timeline has never looked to 3258 or 3144, and your date of 3084 for attack on Smoke Jaguars was wildly off.

The new game is set in 3015, not 3055 as you claim. You are right that the 3015 date will put it before the return of the clans, although this is no different to the original Mechwarrior game. You're quite wrong in saying it is before the Inner Sphere, though, as the Inner Sphere is a permanent part of the setting. So permanent, in fact, that there's no clear date as to when the concept of an Inner Sphere entered into the conscious of the backstory - it was likely a gradual process during the 24th to 26th centuries, as the dominance of Terra ended and the new successor states become powerful political entities in their own right - as opposed to the continually weak periphery powers surrounding the Inner Sphere.

Tau Headhunter wrote:OMG you noobs mechwarrior the first one starts in 3258 just after the clans fall MW2 is set in 3144 where wolf and lade falcon joined the clanners, MW3 is in 3084 where the inner sphere is conering smoke jaguar, MW4 is in 3072 where the 5th donavan are on a revenge spree agains the royal mech commanders.
Now MW5 is set in 3055 where no clans or the inner sphere exists and because of that it is all VS all except from a few friends who banded a group again the forces of the royal hunters.
I would know because i have been folowing the progress of MW5's creation so dont tell me what i already know ir right.

Any arguments?
PM me and i will put you in the place where the history of Mechwarrior is set

And then what sebster explained in a detailed and eloquent way.

Paging H.B.M.C.!

MW5 is set on 3055 not what is says on trailer teaser

The Warhammer, Atlas and Jenner aren't even popular mechs in 3055. All of those are classic 3025 designs, hopelessly outdated by the Clan invasion (except for upgraded variants).

http://pc.ign.com/articles/100/1002275p1.html

This supports the excellent analysis by Sebster, as well as reiterating the 3015 date. As far as I know, no one in the Inner Sphere is fighting anyone but the clans in the 3055 period. The whole radically advanced invaders from beyond the stars has a way of focusing one's survival instinct.

Adding to that, there's this whole thing that Piranha Games (you know, the guys that are actually making the game) also state the 3015 date on their website.
http://www.piranha-games.com/MechWarrior.html

But I'm willing to be convinced. As you (Tau Headhunter) state that you've been following the development of MW5 I'm sure you'll be able to direct us ignorant souls towards some websites that support what you've said concerning MW5. While you're at it I'd also like to see some background info on the Battletech/Mechwarrior games timeline. Seems that the sourcebooks and computer games I've got lying at home all say something different. Which would mean I've been duped into buying clone products with completely false info in them. I wuzz robbed!!!!!!!!!!!

Or maybe not....convince me.

I'm sorry but directing people to the websites is strictly forbidden because if i direct other i lose my rank on the development watch list because i run the quiz section (only way into website).
Also i have corrected the guys on many occasions to make sure they change what the website game date is to 3055 because they screwed it up putting 3015, the game they originally said was it would be set in the year 3055 with the Curion war in progresse between worlds before the first house (house curion) was created and also you play the person in the trailer, Master Sarget Milo Jackson, he was destined to save the world but in the trailer which they did correctly except the date was he got KIA by an atlas overloading his Fusion Partical Core but LRM 50 ammo (rare to hear about LRM 50's but was only in the years 3055 through to 3060 just as the first caln was created).
The first clan created in the Inner Sphere was Jade Falcon, and as for other clan (not Inner Sphere) was Clan Wolf bothe groups of lone hunters who tesed themselves to the limit with their assault on the enemy stronghold wave after wave of brave warrior fought but failed

Tau Headhunter wrote:I'm sorry but directing people to the websites is strictly forbidden because if i direct other i lose my rank on the development watch list because i run the quiz section (only way into website).

What the hell are you talking about?

Tau Headhunter wrote:
Also i have corrected the guys on many occasions to make sure they change what the website game date is to 3055 because they screwed it up putting 3015,

I'm guessing it hasn't been changed because you didn't actually correct them. That is to say that they weren't, and aren't, in error.

That said, if what you're saying is true, and not simply mindless trolling, there will be a great many fans upset at a continuum reboot. Though why anyone would completely reboot a universe as detailed as Battletech is beyond me.

Tau Headhunter wrote:
the game they originally said was it would be set in the year 3055 with the Curion war in progresse between worlds before the first house (house curion) was created

Do you mean House Cameron? That would place the game before the exodus which lead to the creation of the clans, and well before the year 3000.

@ Tau Headhunter: My, that is certainly convenient for you. Not being able to back up any of your claims because you're not allowed to. Assuming your profile is right I'm surprised they let a 16 year old have so much responsibility but hey, those things happen I'm sure.

I'd still like to know where your expansive knowledge about the previous Mechwarrior games is from though. You know the timesetting of all those games and what they're about. Because I own most of those games, you can easily find loads of information about them on the internet and you know what? They all say you're totally wrong.

So do you have anything to say about that or did you conveniently gloss over that part?

@ BAWTRM: I own every game & the old MSdos versions, i also own the preview version b4 they even came out, i also own every version of the Battle tech board and CD verion incl, atlas, avatar and many more.
plus one other thing I own limited (count it) limited edition Mechwarrior computer.
only 90 where made of em.

Tau Headhunter wrote:@ BAWTRM: I own every game & the old MSdos versions, i also own the preview version b4 they even came out, i also own every version of the Battle tech board and CD verion incl, atlas, avatar and many more.
plus one other thing I own limited (count it) limited edition Mechwarrior computer.
only 90 where made of em.

Did you play any of them? Or read any of the background material included? If so, how did you make such a basic error as thinking any of the clans were created in the Inner Sphere? Or that any clan was created in 3055...

Okay, fan-fapping aside, anything substantial?