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Today i went to GW to exchange some previous purchase,all brand new never touched.The trade in value was $259
and i exchanged it for $260 items , and paid the difference. The question is for staff or any store clerks that want to figure out
how a $2 difference total to $2.60 tax? to total of $4.60? I asked the GW staff how this happens, he replied its just $2 if i want to dispute it i can
find the manager when he is in store. Upon hearing that i felt rather insulted, it wasnt about the $2 at all. I just want to know how it added to that.
Not to mention i live quite far from the GW shop and i REALLY dont want to go there again to pick up $2

Any suggestions?

Tax bump. That is perfectly understandable if your taxes have gone up since you purchased the items. It depends on their system (i.e. if you had the old reciept or not) but it's the most likely culprit. I had that problem a lot with people in the last year here in Cali with all the tax increase we had for sales tax. Though I'm not sure how your system works up there

What's the Tax in your area? It looks like 10%, if the tax was $2.60.

Remember, in exchanges, you pay the tax for the WHOLE amount, NOT the remainder amount.

Platuan4th wrote:What's the Tax in your area? It looks like 10%, if the tax was $2.60.

Remember, in exchanges, you pay the tax for the WHOLE amount, NOT the remainder amount.

That sounds like what happened.Why does it work that way?

ÆΞØИ wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:What's the Tax in your area? It looks like 10%, if the tax was $2.60.

Remember, in exchanges, you pay the tax for the WHOLE amount, NOT the remainder amount.

That sounds like what happened.Why does it work that way?

two separate transactions
you traded in 259$ of goods. that's one transaction, done, you are now 259$ richer.
second transaction. you purchased 260$ of goods. 260$ + 10% tax = 262.60$. 262.60-259= 3.60$

wana10 wrote:

ÆΞØИ wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:What's the Tax in your area? It looks like 10%, if the tax was $2.60.

Remember, in exchanges, you pay the tax for the WHOLE amount, NOT the remainder amount.

That sounds like what happened.Why does it work that way?

two separate transactions
you traded in 259$ of goods. that's one transaction, done, you are now 259$ richer.
second transaction. you purchased 260$ of goods. 260$ + 10% tax = 262.60$. 262.60-259= 3.60$

Yes that sounds like what happened.But how can they total an amount without tax added in and then subtracted it from something with tax?
Shouldn't it be $259 base worth of trade in minus $261 of base worth of new product = $2 x 10% tax?

Thats like i'll trade my 259 box of SM Rhino for your 259 box of Chaos Rhino,but now im penalized for 259 worth of tax for something that should be dead even.
^just example.I just dont get it

Actually,i think you are seeing it as a refund's point of view.We assumed that the $259 is the total with the amount boosted by tax,but its not.
Its purely $259 of product before tax , exchanged with $261 of product also before tax.But of course i already paid tax the first time.

I suspect you may have a case for reclaiming the sales tax on the returned items, but as I am not an American, I haven't a clue how that would be handled. Here in the UK (and EU generally) all prices are quoted gross, so we generally don't think of VAT (=sales tax) as a seperate item.

ÆΞØИ wrote:
Yes that sounds like what happened.But how can they total an amount without tax added in and then subtracted it from something with tax?
Shouldn't it be $259 base worth of trade in minus $261 of base worth of new product = $2 x 10% tax?

It all depends on your local tax laws. Some areas do it on the total sales amount(this seems to be the case in this instance) while some are allowed to do it based on the amount being charged.

Check what the local tax laws state(you may want to ask someone knowledgeable in such areas). If they act the second way, then you're correct and are owed money back.

I came across this same question several times from customers when I worked retail. Each stores register systems are typically set up with that area's tax laws programmed in.

Sales tax laws are one of those areas that people rarely truly understand(like the fact that Sales tax aren't a flat number, are actually made up of state, city, and county sales tax, etc.). For example, Louisiana runs "tax free" weekends every year. Most people think that means no tax, period. It actually means that no state sales tax is charged, only city tax(IE. Baton Rouge has 9% total normally and only 4% during those weekends, as it takes out the 5% state tax).

Platuan4th wrote:What's the Tax in your area? It looks like 10%, if the tax was $2.60.

Remember, in exchanges, you pay the tax for the WHOLE amount, NOT the remainder amount.

2.60 is 1% of 260, 10% would be 26.00

Scott-S6 wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:What's the Tax in your area? It looks like 10%, if the tax was $2.60.

Remember, in exchanges, you pay the tax for the WHOLE amount, NOT the remainder amount.

2.60 is 1% of 260, 10% would be 26.00

Heh, I fail at math.

Scott-S6, that's what I noticed, too .

This doesn't make any sense? Unless there was a 1% tax increase since you bought the items, and they're adding that on here... like you said, not worth making the trip back for, but it is something that they should be able to explain (at least the manager) or at least be polite about!

Even the manager might not know.
If it was an increase in sales tax (which is not uncommon, sadly), a large company (like GW) would update all of their registers (which, for GW, are just computers) remotely. It's not likely something that the manager would have to program into the register manually, like we did back "in the old days."

The manager might not even be aware that there was a tax increase.

Best thing to do is make some calls locally to find out if state or local sales tax increased recently.

How long ago was the original purchase made?


Eric

wana10 wrote:

two separate transactions
you traded in 259$ of goods. that's one transaction, done, you are now 259$ richer.
second transaction. you purchased 260$ of goods. 260$ + 10% tax = 262.60$. 262.60-259= 3.60$

You need to go back to school.

10% tax on $260 isnt $2.62. 10% of $260 is $26.

$2.62 is 2% tax

Bottom line... The government wants their cut and you're going to pay it.

Assuming you meant 258 not 259...

The new purchases are actually

260 + 12% tax (5+7) = C$291.20

Old purchases are:

258 + 12% = C$288.96

So the difference in tax that needs to be paid is:

291.2 - 288.96 = C$2.24

and this plus the difference in price is C$4.24 Assuming the figures you gave for prices were only approximations then sorry to say, looks like the store was right.

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