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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/19 20:02:06
Subject: Missle launchers vs. Laser Cannons, which is better?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Missle launchers vs. Laser Cannons, which is better? [I hope this is th correct forum]
I am using SW currently. I have had Long Fang units with Missiles and Laser cannons. Which would be the best for the points verse what they can do?
A LC can be used to punch a LR where a Missile can only Glance on a 6. For some reason that 1 extra Str seems to do a lot more with AV 13 or less, compared to Missiles.
Going by points, a LC cost 2.5 missile launchers. A LF unit with 4 missiles is 115 pts,( A split Dev squad could be simmilar).
A unit with 4 LC is only 60pts more. It sounds like a little but seems to add points quick.
Most of the lists I have seen have been all Missile launchers. I did see a listing with LC and Plaz Cannons.
This would be a take on all commers list (sort of) because @ FLGS, I don't know who is bringing what army that week. Sometimes we can't build a list to go aginst a single army. I do bring 1 or 2 lists but they are simmilar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/19 20:05:45
Subject: Re:Missle launchers vs. Laser Cannons, which is better?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Firslty Id say this goes into Tactics. Secondly Id say it really depends on what your fighting. Im an Orky player, so I pretty much always tell people that against Orks, you cant beat missile launchers. They are free for normal SM squads (not sure about you SW lot though) and can either be anti tank or anti infantry.
BUT if your playing against some heavy mek armies, Id say the laser cannon (you mean las cannon right?) would be the best bet, simply because of the punch they pack.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/19 20:08:02
Subject: Re:Missle launchers vs. Laser Cannons, which is better?
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Battleship Captain
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I think this probably belongs in the Tactics section, unless you're directing the question to your specific list.
First, there are alot of opinions on this so its hard to get 1 answer. That being said I think most people will agree that Missile Launchers are a better value. The reasons are that they are typically cheaper, they perform nearly as well against lower AV targets and they have the flexibility of firing Frags if you come across a big horde army. The point about price is probably the most important, as there is a fairly large difference in cost between the two.
For your Long Fangs, I would go with a majority of Missile Launchers but sneaking 1-2 Lascannons in there wouldn't hurt (assuming the points allow it).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/19 20:44:13
Subject: Missle launchers vs. Laser Cannons, which is better?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I prefer Missile Launchers in my Long Fangs.
1 caveat: You must have enough capability to take out armor 14 somewhere else in the army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/20 18:10:26
Subject: Missle launchers vs. Laser Cannons, which is better?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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* laser cannon -Sorry 1st/2nd ed. yes LC.
Thank you for your replies. I started to post this in tacts. The question is a equipment choice, So I thought it would be a army list forum.
At 1 time, I wanted a Take on all commers list.-yea right.
My forces are semi-TOAC. I would bring 2 simmilar Infantry lists to the FLGS. I don't know who will show up.
I thought people would have a LC stuck in with missiles launchers with a dev/l.fang unit.
To take this further: In a turnament only 1 list is used How would people mix a heavy weapon squad. [This is about YOUR list, so this is the correct forum.]
A few games I would have a 2 LC with my L.Fangs. 1 for armor and 1 because I suck at rolling dice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/20 18:16:30
Subject: Missle launchers vs. Laser Cannons, which is better?
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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I'd take missile launchers for your Long Fangs.
They can easily pop medium tanks or transports and take on horde by using the blast mode.
Moreover, you could add a Wolf Guard with cyclone.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/20 20:29:06
Subject: Missle launchers vs. Laser Cannons, which is better?
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Stalwart Space Marine
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Well missile launchers are strength 8 but las-cannons are strength 9 so I guess las-cannons are better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/22 17:38:57
Subject: Missle launchers vs. Laser Cannons, which is better?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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We are aware the LC has str 9. But also take the point cost in to consideration. 1 LC = 2.5 Missiles point cost.
When people bring a heavy weapons unit in their turnament army, What is on your list? Do you field mostly missiles and maybe a 1 LC just incase of real heavly armored targets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/22 18:18:58
Subject: Re:Missle launchers vs. Laser Cannons, which is better?
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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I either run my Long Fangs one of two ways:
a) 4 Missile Launchers and pack leader
b) 3 Missile Launchers and 2 Lascannons with pack leader
Really this is the only way that I want to equip my Long Fangs, they can still take out armor and lay down suppressive fire against light Infantry.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/22 19:06:13
Subject: Missle launchers vs. Laser Cannons, which is better?
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Dakka Veteran
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I agree with Unholy_Martyr, with one slight deviation.
I was looking at the cost difference between a Long Fangs unit and a normal Dreadnought.
Guess which one has more fire power for the buck, you guessed it the Long Fangs. The only part that deviates on mine from Unholy's setup, is I only take 4 LF and a Pack Leader, and because my list isn't any larger then 1k pts right now, they're going to be my AV 14 hitters.
They're kitted now as the following:
2 - ML
2 - LC
1 - Pack Leader
It's the same points value as a Dreadnought with TL-LC and DCCW w/ Heavy Flamer. I think its 145 pts.
But this allows me a bit more flexibility then a Dreadnought and the ability to split fire which is great and use the LC on heavy targets and the ML on softer targets if both are within range/LOS.
Just my thoughts. And Unholy has definitely helped me out quite a bit on getting my SW started.
Peace~
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/24 19:07:29
Subject: Missle launchers vs. Laser Cannons, which is better?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Thank you guys. Most of you understood the questions and provided valuable information, for me and others reading this forum.
??A little more. What Heavy support choices do people use in their generic list. (Not tooled for 1 opponent)??
Not how to use them but what is on the list.
I am using SW list. Besides my lists with LR's. I am only taking 2 HS choices (don't know why, I have only 2). They have been Long fangs with missiles and a pred Destructor w/ sponson lasers.
I have been Point pinching, getting as much for as little points. My older lists have 2 LF with 2 or 3 mixed in.
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