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I suppose that is true, my bad. Keep forgetting Orcs are one of those teams that can have no linemen later on, heh.

Vorian wrote:
It's not even just off the meta, you can have 2 throwers but 4 Blitzers - buying a box and a booster will give you 3 of each instead of the actual values you can take.
Just a silly choice.

I see where you're coming from, but I don't think it's a silly choice. As well as variety making the game look nicer, Blood Bowl's one of those games where distinguishing figures is important. A variant blitzer might be more obviously useful, but I'm glad they're not just focussing on optimisation. Having a good model available is often the excuse I need to try something for the sake of it – vive la difference!

Sure, so now you have 3 figures and two different ones for something that's max 2 possible, maybe a few people will take one for fun and the majority of people will take none of

While there are 3 figures and two different ones for something that's max 4 possible and 99.9% of players will take 4 of.

It's silly, there's just no getting round it! You can revel in the silliness of it, but it doesn't make sense on any level

 Apologist wrote:

Vorian wrote:
It's not even just off the meta, you can have 2 throwers but 4 Blitzers - buying a box and a booster will give you 3 of each instead of the actual values you can take.
Just a silly choice.

I see where you're coming from, but I don't think it's a silly choice. As well as variety making the game look nicer, Blood Bowl's one of those games where distinguishing figures is important. A variant blitzer might be more obviously useful, but I'm glad they're not just focussing on optimisation. Having a good model available is often the excuse I need to try something for the sake of it – vive la difference!

Except it makes more sense to have three sculpts for a positional that you're always going to want four of (and will probably have different skills on, maybe two Guard, one Mighty Blow, and one Tackle) then to have two sculpts for a positional that you're only going to have one of, if that. There are plenty of players who don't bother taking a Thrower on an Orc team.

It is a very bad choice and also very expensive if you want 2 of each blitzer model.

Could always pick up the alternate team Fw sells to get two variant blitzers and black orcs now. Well, sort of variant. :p

Unboxing of dark elves.

That Blitzer is fat.

And runner ditch the ball, you can say he dump it off

Kinda bummer that witch pose is super boring, tackle/ rushing pose would be better imo.

 Crazyterran wrote:
Could always pick up the alternate team Fw sells to get two variant blitzers and black orcs now. Well, sort of variant. :p

Oh I got those 2 teams, all painted up in alternative colours. I'm wondering what the price is going to complete all of this. I'm gonna need a 2nd set of the Orcland raiders (23£) to get the right shoulder/armour parts. Then I'm gonna have to get 2x orc booster, one for the plastic team, one for the resin team. I'm guessing the boosters will cost around 20£ each. Then you can double all that for the bright crusaders. In total, that's gonna be more than 100£ and then there's shipping and customs is gonna go to town with all that money, probably adding 40£ more..

Keep in mind this price tag is in addition to the 4 teams I already have bought.

Are the Dark Elves coming soon, then? With AoS in two weeks I cant imagine them being until July...

I picked up a pair of Orcland Raider boxes. Any suggestions for a non-yellow scheme? My human team is already yellow...

Here in Canada I almost never get dinged by FW, only if I get a book or paints. The FW gold cost me a pretty penny.

 Crazyterran wrote:
Are the Dark Elves coming soon, then? With AoS in two weeks I cant imagine them being until July...

I picked up a pair of Orcland Raider boxes. Any suggestions for a non-yellow scheme? My human team is already yellow...

Here in Canada I almost never get dinged by FW, only if I get a book or paints. The FW gold cost me a pretty penny.

Do Orange then, bright and easier to work than yellow

They can squeeze in Blood Bowl, shadespire and necromunda along side 40k or AoS anytime they want.

zamerion wrote:



Unboxing of dark elves.

Interesting. When I assembled my Human, Ork, Dwarf, and Skaven team, they used a tab system like a snaptite model and they went together pretty smoothly. There were a few joins that needed some filing or trimming from how the sprue was connected for a easy fit. However, I was really impressed with how the models went together. When I assembled my Doom Lords, it was a different story. They no longer used the tab/snaptite system and went witha more traditional glue tegether model. Test fitting, trimming, and filing became a bit more important.

It looks like this box is going with the Doom Lord traditional model approach versus the earlier Peg and Slot snaptite style. Were the other Elf models the Traditional or Peg and Slot style?

Elven Union are multi part kit, and is also the most complicated one ever made for Blood Bowl. Arm, Chest plate (with minor work), face, head and Shoulder pad can be mix and match around, creating a wide variety of players.

Whoever made the Elf Union kit probably spent too much time working on it, that's why it keep getting push back from time and time.

Based on the new photos of Blitz Bowl, it appears that the game is more than just Blood Bowl on a smaller scale. The actions are different and the block dice results are slightly different as well. There are Challenge cards and Bonus Play cards which appear to bring in objective-type goals into the game.

http://mezmaronslair.blogspot.com/2018/06/new-games-workshop-blitz-bowl-pictures.html

Look like a Shadespire version of Bloodbowl.

How on earth did you tell that from one photo?

(and what does "a Shadespire version of Blood Bowl" mean, for that matter?)

They have a bunch of photos if you go to the link

Looks amazing!

Yes, that makes more sense; adding the progressive objectives mechanic from Shadespire to the game. Although probably without the collectible element.

As excited as I am about AOS 2.0, my excitement for it is eclipsed by Blitz Bowl. I think this game could be an absolute blast, and I love the different objectives and short play time.

This is obviously random speculation, but wouldn't it be cool if the campaign element of the game worked in a way where you got SPP to distribute among your players by winning, but you got extra based on what objectives you completed? So an objective worth 2 points would give you two extra SPP and so on.

I don't think Blitz Bowl has a campaign element.

You could probably graft these objective cards into Blood Bowl, though.

Blitz Bowl seems like a decent way to get quick games in, like BB7s.

If team composition is just 1/2 of a sprue from a box set, I wonder if there are any teams that are definitely better/worst off. And how might it affect teams with 0-1 positionals like secret weapons on the Goblins, or Big Guys from Renegades.

If the game supports anything beyond what comes in the box (remember, Betrayal At Calth, Burning of Prospero and the Dark Eldar game didn't, until they got a WD article), it might not bother with anything that's not in the team box sets. Since it's using a different set of rules, it'll have its own roster requirements anyway.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/06/28/white-dwarf-preview-updates-for-warhammer-board-games/

So dark elves next month.

AndrewGPaul wrote:I don't think Blitz Bowl has a campaign element.

You could probably graft these objective cards into Blood Bowl, though.

Yeah, that's probably likely. Here's hoping it will though! I do suppose it wouldn't be that hard to slip some campaign elements from the main game in though.

AndrewGPaul wrote:If the game supports anything beyond what comes in the box (remember, Betrayal At Calth, Burning of Prospero and the Dark Eldar game didn't, until they got a WD article), it might not bother with anything that's not in the team box sets. Since it's using a different set of rules, it'll have its own roster requirements anyway.

It looks like there will be at least some support outside of the box, how much I think could vary wildly. The first picture shown of the game shows cards for Skaven players in the top left had corner https://boardgamegeek.com/image/3995196/locustofdeath. Whether or not these cards come in the box or are some sort of "extra team expansion pack" though I don't think anyone is sure of.

I really hope that every few teams they release an expansion pack with cards for said teams.

I'm really liking the team. I'm gonna try to split a team with a DoK player, subsidize the cost by a few bucks and they get a couple of extra Witch Aelves they can use for leaders or heroes.

And then I get a box full of models to make Fleetmasters/Assassins for my Scourge Privateers! Wooo!

I'm thrown off by the naming. I thought GW universally changed to calling Elves "Aelves". Here we are with official products and news calling them "Elves" and "Dark Elves". Is this unique to Blood Bowl?

 CaptainWaffle wrote:
I'm thrown off by the naming. I thought GW universally changed to calling Elves "Aelves". Here we are with official products and news calling them "Elves" and "Dark Elves". Is this unique to Blood Bowl?

Yes, Blood Bowl is basically its own 'universe'.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 CaptainWaffle wrote:
I'm thrown off by the naming. I thought GW universally changed to calling Elves "Aelves". Here we are with official products and news calling them "Elves" and "Dark Elves". Is this unique to Blood Bowl?

Yes, Blood Bowl is basically its own 'universe'.

Yeah, it diverged at (one of) the (many) Battle(s) of Blackfire Pass when the armies stopped for a break and one of the Orcs accidentally uncovered a lost temple dedicated to Nuffle, god of ball sports, the ref that can see, and the rest is history; that version of the Old World has national tours instead of wars (though the casualty rate is about the same), Cabalvision instead of cabbalistic cults, and legendary Sports Entertainers rather than boring old Heroes, and never bothered with the End Times because then there would be no way to have a re-match after.

 CaptainWaffle wrote:
I'm thrown off by the naming. I thought GW universally changed to calling Elves "Aelves". Here we are with official products and news calling them "Elves" and "Dark Elves". Is this unique to Blood Bowl?

What are you talking about? GW is all about Orcs/Orks, Elves, Eldar and Imperial Guard.