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2010/03/22 10:54:46
Subject: Filmmaker Del Toro to give 'Hobbit' new look
Filmmaker Del Toro to give 'Hobbit' new look
By MIN LEE, AP Entertainment Writer Min Lee, Ap Entertainment Writer
2 hrs 1 min ago
HONG KONG – One of Peter Jackson's frequent collaborators says the "Lord of the Rings" director passed the torch to Mexican filmmaker Guillermo del Toro to give the trilogy's two-part prequel, "The Hobbit," a fresh look.
After the huge success of the "Rings" series, Jackson is now working on adapting the J.R.R. Tolkien fantasy novel that takes place before the trilogy. But this time the Oscar-winning New Zealand filmmaker is producing and working on the script, relinquishing directing duties to Del Toro, whose credits include "Pan's Labyrinth" and the two "Hellboy" movies.
Longtime Jackson collaborator, art designer Richard Taylor, says he thinks his friend gave up the director's chair "probably because he's spent so long in Middle Earth ... and probably felt a director such as Guillermo could bring something passionate and unique and original and new to the content for the sake of the fans," referring to the imaginary world where the novels are set.
"It's an absolute delight to be working with Guillermo Del Toro. We've all enjoyed his craft as seen in 'Pan's Labyrinth' and the 'Hellboy' movies. His unique aesthetic and storytelling style brings a lovely aesthetic to the world and one we're enjoying being part of," Taylor told The Associated Press on Monday in Hong Kong, where he is attending a digital entertainment conference at the technology park Cyberport.
The Weta Workshop president said his team has started designing the landscape and characters in "The Hobbit," but that he was unclear when shooting on the New Line Cinema production will start in New Zealand.
"We're just patiently waiting for it to begin. It's been in early development for a while. I'm sure it will get going some time soon," Taylor said.
He said he will stick to a consistent look for the main characters that appear in both the "Rings" series and "The Hobbit."
Taylor, who also won Oscars for his work on the "Rings" series, said he doesn't know if "The Hobbit" will be released in 3-D, but said the Weta team will take advantage of technological advancements since the first trilogy.
"Like any film, there will be an effort to utilize the tools that are available to us today to achieve visual images that will excite and intrigue an audience as we did try 10 years ago."
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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2010/03/22 11:08:57
Subject: Filmmaker Del Toro to give 'Hobbit' new look
Man they better have the "If there's a whip, there's a way" song or I'm going all border patrol on the director.
And whilst you're pointing and shouting at the boogeyman in the corner, you're missing the burglar coming in through the window.
Well, Duh! Because they had a giant Mining ship. If you had a giant mining ship you would drill holes in everything too, before you'd destory it with a black hole
2010/03/22 11:10:27
Subject: Filmmaker Del Toro to give 'Hobbit' new look
Shooting of the long-awaited film version of JRR Tolkien's The Hobbit is set to begin in New Zealand in July.
Actor Sir Ian McKellen, who reprises his Lord of the Rings role as Gandalf the Grey, revealed casting is taking place in LA, London and New York.
Mexican-born film-maker Guillermo del Toro will direct the film and its proposed sequel.
The films will be prequels to the Lord of the Rings trilogy directed by Oscar winner Peter Jackson.
Jackson - together with his wife Fran Walsh - will produce the films, to be made back-to-back in New Zealand.
Writing on his official website, Sir Ian reports that shooting of the two films is expected to take more than a year, with Del Toro "now living in Wellington, close to the Jacksons' and the studio in Miramar".
McKellen added that the script was still being worked on, saying "the first draft is crammed with old and new friends, again on a quest in Middle-earth".
Del Toro, best known for the Hellboy movies, has called the directing role "an absolute dream come true".
His acclaimed Spanish-language fantasy Pan's Labyrinth won three Oscars and three Baftas in 2007.
According to studio New Line, the first film will be an adaptation of The Hobbit, the novel Tolkien published before his Lord of the Rings cycle.
The second will be an original story focusing on the 60 years between the book and the beginning of the Rings trilogy.
Two films - one cup.
2010/03/22 12:09:25
Subject: Re:Filmmaker Del Toro to give 'Hobbit' new look
I can understand them not being your most favoritist thing EVAR, but to call them fail when by almost any measurable standard they are quite successful is a little silly.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
2010/03/22 12:23:11
Subject: Filmmaker Del Toro to give 'Hobbit' new look
I don't know. I am kind of iffy on this. Pan's Labyrinth was needlessly violent and gross. I'm very leery about actually paying money to see the Hobbit movies by a director who films people getting their hands broken with a hammer.
WTF is with the scond film? Events in between? No epic Tolkein wordsmithing?
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2010/03/22 12:30:16
Subject: Filmmaker Del Toro to give 'Hobbit' new look
We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.
2010/03/22 12:32:02
Subject: Filmmaker Del Toro to give 'Hobbit' new look
Don't forget "Blasphemer!" Or in the words of TBone the Terrible:
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2010/03/22 12:49:37
Subject: Filmmaker Del Toro to give 'Hobbit' new look
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Frazzled wrote:I don't know. I am kind of iffy on this. Pan's Labyrinth was needlessly violent and gross. I'm very leery about actually paying money to see the Hobbit movies by a director who films people getting their hands broken with a hammer.
WTF is with the scond film? Events in between? No epic Tolkein wordsmithing?
As it turns out the Spanish cival war and its aftermath wasn't very nice, he was only depicting a very watered down version of what actually happened.
Del Toro wants to make it as close to the book as possible, with the visuals closer to Tolkein's descriptions, like wargs looking like wargs.
the second film however i have no idea what they will do
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2010/03/22 12:57:01
Subject: Filmmaker Del Toro to give 'Hobbit' new look
Frazzled wrote:I don't know. I am kind of iffy on this. Pan's Labyrinth was needlessly violent and gross. I'm very leery about actually paying money to see the Hobbit movies by a director who films people getting their hands broken with a hammer.
WTF is with the scond film? Events in between? No epic Tolkein wordsmithing?
As it turns out the Spanish cival war and its aftermath wasn't very nice, he was only depicting a very watered down version of what actually happened.
Del Toro wants to make it as close to the book as possible, with the visuals closer to Tolkein's descriptions, like wargs looking like wargs.
the second film however i have no idea what they will do
I heard the rape of Nanking wasn't a Renaissance Fair either. Neither of which are necessary to a children's tale.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2010/03/22 13:09:11
Subject: Filmmaker Del Toro to give 'Hobbit' new look
I'm ok with dark morality tales. I am not ok with gross/violence for the sake of gross/violence. Its unneeded and cheapens the experience. if you disagree, good for you but i don't care and don't have to see the movie.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2010/03/22 13:23:13
Subject: Filmmaker Del Toro to give 'Hobbit' new look
I like Del Toro's visuals, but I'm not in love with any of his films, unless you count the Orphanage which he produced and clearly had his paws all over it.
The Golden Army had some great ideas... the puppet esque opening sequence, the evil elves, the angel of death, the golden army themselves... but overall execution was a bit sloppy IMO.
gorgon wrote:I think the point is that it wasn't a children's tale. It was an R-rated film about the Spanish civil war.
THATS
NOT
HOW
IT WAS
ADVERTISED
Thats also not why it received awards. Further, for a film about the Spanish Civil War it would have been remarkably lame.
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Flashman wrote:I like Del Toro's visuals, but I'm not in love with any of his films, unless you count the Orphanage which he produced and clearly had his paws all over it.
The Golden Army had some great ideas... the puppet esque opening sequence, the evil elves, the angel of death, the golden army themselves... but overall execution was a bit sloppy IMO.
Yea. I liked Hellboy, but the Golden Arches, er Army was pretty meh in many parts. Some cool scenes though. Real tooth fairies...
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2010/03/22 15:16:23
Subject: Filmmaker Del Toro to give 'Hobbit' new look
gorgon wrote:I think the point is that it wasn't a children's tale. It was an R-rated film about the Spanish civil war.
I still haven't got around to watching the movie because of what I have heard regarding the content.
However if I do sit down, and its not one and half hours of a dark gothic fantasy. A shadowy version of 'The Labyrinth' but with some freaky white fella with eyes in his hands instead of a dashing David Bowie, then me and Mr Del Toro are going to have a falling out.
Thats what the TV adverts for the cinema release and the DVD cover/back have told me I'm recieving, if not so, what the hell was Del Toro doing?
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2010/03/22 20:39:27
Subject: Filmmaker Del Toro to give 'Hobbit' new look
gorgon wrote:I think the point is that it wasn't a children's tale. It was an R-rated film about the Spanish civil war.
THATS
NOT
HOW
IT WAS
ADVERTISED
Thats also not why it received awards. Further, for a film about the Spanish Civil War it would have been remarkably lame.
When I saw "Event Horizon" the first time, I was expecting pure Sci-Fi. Oops.
When I saw "Pan's Labyrinth," I had no preconceptions. I knew the rating, and that was about it. I'm not sure what advertisements you saw; I caught it very early, long before the Oscar buzz started, and had to do it at a little independent theater.
Spoiler:
As it turns out, my wife and I were able to talk about it for quite a while, trying to figure out what was real, and what was escapist fantasy created by the mind of a child in the midst of truly horrifying event.
It was a good flick.
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2010/03/22 20:50:05
Subject: Filmmaker Del Toro to give 'Hobbit' new look
I can't stand foreign films. I'm one of those people that needs everything in english or I just won't watch it. Subtitles suck, if I want to read for 2 hours I'll read a book. I also hate dubbed english because the voice and the mouth don't line up right and you can tell, and the voice actor talent is always bottom of the bottom of the bottom of the barrel.
That being said, I watched Pan's Labyrinth and really enjoyed it. I was expecting alice in wonderland goes to hell, it wasn't what I expected but I still liked it.
2010/03/22 20:57:45
Subject: Filmmaker Del Toro to give 'Hobbit' new look
Fraz, it was an R-rated film. Personally, I don't walk into an "R" and think it's going to be Narnia.
And I'd argue it received awards *because* of its historical angle. Pure fantasy and sci-fi films don't win awards, with the exception of Return of the King. Which was really a "trilogy achievement" award as much as anything. RotK wasn't even the best film in the trilogy.
Regarding the movie itself, I had the same experience as Janthkin. I don't know how you see the violence and horror as not being intrinsic to the story he tried to tell.
Dressing it up as a Spanish civil war film is nuts. It doesn't hold up as a Spanish Civil War film, lets get real.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2010/03/22 21:36:03
Subject: Re:Filmmaker Del Toro to give 'Hobbit' new look
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2010/03/22 21:51:48
Subject: Filmmaker Del Toro to give 'Hobbit' new look
That advert is appalling, the film is nothing like that.
It is the story of a girl loosing her mind in the spanish civil war in which you cannot tell what is fantasy and what is reality, beautifully gothic and violent with real emotion.
Suppose you will either love it or hate it but either way it is not a childrens film and should not have been advertised as a dark fantasy film.
2010/03/22 22:06:34
Subject: Filmmaker Del Toro to give 'Hobbit' new look
sexiest_hero wrote:Man they better have the "If there's a whip, there's a way" song or I'm going all border patrol on the director.
You may have to prepare to go "all border patrol" then,as that song wasn't in the Rankin/Bass version of "The Hobbit",it appeared in The Rankin/Bass version of "Return of the King."
Catchy little tune though.
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