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Hey All,

This has confounded me in the 5th edition and I haven't found an Answer yet. Is Tank Shock Lethal?

I mean, in the rule book, it doesn't say anything about anyone in the squad getting killed by a shocking tank other than a "Death or Glory" attack. It only says that models are moved out of the way if they are i the way when the tank reaches it's final position.

But doesn't it seem like an Eldar Grav tank would easily slam into a squad of infantry without giving them a chance to even turn around?

Opinions?
   
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Tiny Geek wrote:Hey All,

This has confounded me in the 5th edition and I haven't found an Answer yet. Is Tank Shock Lethal?

I mean, in the rule book, it doesn't say anything about anyone in the squad getting killed by a shocking tank other than a "Death or Glory" attack. It only says that models are moved out of the way if they are i the way when the tank reaches it's final position.

But doesn't it seem like an Eldar Grav tank would easily slam into a squad of infantry without giving them a chance to even turn around?

Opinions?
Unless a model does a DoG, no models are hurt. The benefit of tank shock is that it causes a Morale Check.

Do not try and confuse fluff and rules, it just leads to a massive headache.

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However, against non-fearless armies those morale checks can be extremely effective, and the ability to tank shock infantry off an objective is invaluable for winning the game.

Just 'cause it doesn't kill anyone doesn't mean it's not awesome.

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It should be"If you fail your morale,you stare at the tank until it runs over you"kinda thing

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And yet, it's not. Thank god, as it would make mech that much more effective. Even against fearless units, tank shock can be effective when combined with multiple template weapons, as tank shock forces units to bunch up.

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Valhallan42nd wrote:And yet, it's not. Thank god, as it would make mech that much more effective. Even against fearless units, tank shock can be effective when combined with multiple template weapons, as tank shock forces units to bunch up.


It only forces units to bunch up if the tank does not move completely through the unit. If the tank stops in the middle of a unit, then it makes the use of template and blast weapons more difficult, as you are not allowed to place those weapons touching the friendly tank.

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willydstyle wrote:
Valhallan42nd wrote:And yet, it's not. Thank god, as it would make mech that much more effective. Even against fearless units, tank shock can be effective when combined with multiple template weapons, as tank shock forces units to bunch up.


It only forces units to bunch up if the tank does not move completely through the unit. If the tank stops in the middle of a unit, then it makes the use of template and blast weapons more difficult, as you are not allowed to place those weapons touching the friendly tank.


Only if you do it wrong.

Clip the side of the unit instead of plowing into the middle of it. Deploy the units with flamers for optimal targeting.



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willydstyle wrote:
Valhallan42nd wrote:And yet, it's not. Thank god, as it would make mech that much more effective. Even against fearless units, tank shock can be effective when combined with multiple template weapons, as tank shock forces units to bunch up.


It only forces units to bunch up if the tank does not move completely through the unit. If the tank stops in the middle of a unit, then it makes the use of template and blast weapons more difficult, as you are not allowed to place those weapons touching the friendly tank.
Which is why you aim it at the edge of the unit. They have to remain in coherecny, and have to move the absoloute minimum distance, so they end up all nicely bunched up on 1 side of the tank. Combine it with a Template Weapon or better yet passengers firing multiple Template Weapons (Burnas, I'm Looking at you!) and it eats them alive

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Gwar! wrote:
willydstyle wrote:
Valhallan42nd wrote:And yet, it's not. Thank god, as it would make mech that much more effective. Even against fearless units, tank shock can be effective when combined with multiple template weapons, as tank shock forces units to bunch up.


It only forces units to bunch up if the tank does not move completely through the unit. If the tank stops in the middle of a unit, then it makes the use of template and blast weapons more difficult, as you are not allowed to place those weapons touching the friendly tank.
Which is why you aim it at the edge of the unit. They have to remain in coherecny, and have to move the absoloute minimum distance, so they end up all nicely bunched up on 1 side of the tank. Combine it with a Template Weapon or better yet passengers firing multiple Template Weapons (Burnas, I'm Looking at you!) and it eats them alive


I wasn't saying it can't be done, I was just pointed out that it takes more planning than many players think. I've encountered a lot of people who play tank shocks wrong.

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It is also useful to push a unit contesting an objective out of range of the objective.
I tank shocked a Necron Lord away from an objective in one game and since I did it with a Rhino with a combat squad embarked, it went from him contesting an objective to me controlling it.
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