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so I've been looking for a 2nd army that will help me have a better chance at beating my friends Dark Elves and also to have an army with a different style of gameplay to keep everything interesting.

the 4 armies Ive been looking at are:

Woodelves
Ogre Kingdoms
Lizardmen
Warriors of Chaos

there are a couple of factors that affect my choices on what to play, I would also like to tell you what I think of each.
*A quick note I have the codex for each except the new lizardmen one*

Woodelves

I like the idea of forest spirits and such, but as far as I know Woodelves do not win very often, and something else thats negative is that you are dependent on having forest terrain which my friend and I arent even in possession of. and the fluff doesnt necessarrily interest me in the least other than the forest coming alive and killing things

now the thing that mainly affects my decision also is the fact that a while back I traded a small force of mine for:
56 Glade guard
8 glade riders
12 dryads
Wood elf hero on foot
Waywatcher Lord
1 Warhawk rider

I dont exactly know what should I do.
so should I just build them and paint them up as a display army which I could play with occasionally? or should I just try to trade them off?

Alright next army

[color=#804000]Ogre Kingdoms

I love the fluff on these guys and I also like the fact that I dont have to paint as many units. another thing I like is the Gut magic and the idea of charging in and ripping things apart with giant bloodthirsty ogres

some negatives are that alot of the models seems kinda plain and boring to me, plus some of the models are ugly looking, It may just be the way Gw has them painted but...idk. Im also worried that their style of play may get boring and that they dont have much potential for victory as most armies.

currently I have:
2 man eaters
1 greasus gold tooth (mostly for painting, plus hes cool as hell!!)
and a tyrant.
I was also planning on gettting a battallion of ogres but I'm not sure.

should I just trade what I have or start a force of these guys?

Lizardmen

alright here is just another force I was interested in. I dont have the codex for this as stated above but I have read through a digital copy of the codex and theyre pretty cool.

I also made a trade for a OOP force of these guys. here is what I have along with pics
40x Skinks
1x Skink Priest
1x Skink Champion
1x Skink Drummer
2x Chameleon Skinks
41x Saurus -
16x Temple Guard
1 Stegadon



what should I do with these guys? should I purchase the new codex and just play with them maybe build the force a bit more? maybe give them to my 15 year old brother who is interested in playing for the 1st time?
or should I trade them off?

and last but not least

Warriors of Chaos
I like these guys for the elite troops, the versatility and their overall badassness.
but somethings I find are the choices are kind of overwhelming. and plus I played chaos in 40k and I think the stuff is a little to similar. also I alot of the models aren't....I guess you could say characterful to me.

I also think these may be the best to deal with those pesky Dark elves and produce alot more interesting raging battles with my buddy.

right now I have;
5 chaos knights
and 12 chaos warriors
and I also have a battalion on order from my local gaming store which I could cancel if need be.

Phew finally I got all of that written down. all these thoughts have been flying and colliding in my head like like a bunch of heated gas particles.

so please help me out guys, comment on what I have said. maybe provide and argument on some of statements.and above all HELP ME WITH THESE QUESTION!!!!!
Im adding a poll, so like always after answering the poll would you please post ur reasons why.


thank you all for taking the time to read this huge post, and I hope to hear from you guys soon.

sincerely, Girthman

I play WoC and they are the most flexible army in the game, as long as you want to focus on beating face in melée. I love them, each one is like an ogre that has been stuffed into full plate. Lizardmen riding dinosaurs is so brutally sweet, they are good in all phases, and they have a ton of cool builds. Woodelves are practically unwinnable unless you sink a ton of money in, and ogres will be better after their next revamp

Me, I happen to like the army of whatever book I'm reading at the time.

Probably why it's so hard for me to actually field one.

I endorse the lizards, since they're reasonably flexible. But there's a lot of variety with WOC also, so it can come down to taste. The Warriors are a little more hobbled with regard to missile weapons, but definitely make up for it elsewhere.

(The Khorne lord on the Juggernaught reeks coolness, too)

ZF-

I voted for lizardmen or WoC. I think you might like ogres, but need to wait for them to be redone (not sure when that will be). I think my next army will be lizardmen and you have a very good start to one, but I think you would be more happy with WoC. You already had a taste for them in 40k so I think that will help you when building your army.

I voted for all of them. they all have their pros and cons.

I think what I will do is

I will just trade/sell the wood elves
hold off on the Ogres until they are redone
and just build my Woc force and lizardmen force