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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/29 09:06:19
Subject: Modelling problem
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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I glued together some plastic war walkers and then realised that I forgot to add some parts. Is there any way to unglue the parts? I used GW super glue, not the plastic glue. The glue is set wrong to use the debonding stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/29 09:39:53
Subject: Modelling problem
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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You should be able to just snap them apart with your hands. I hear that if you put the models in the fridge/freezer beforehand, it makes the glue more brittle.
It's a good thing you didn't use plastic glue though, as that physically fuses the parts together.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/29 13:47:38
Subject: Modelling problem
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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there's a superglue deactivator i use, i bought it at a rc plane and car store, along with my gap filling super glue. it's made by a company called "Zap-a-Gap" check it out
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/29 14:09:40
Subject: Modelling problem
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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Yeah DON'T SNAP THEM APART!!
Dreadnote, major foul man, don't snap your models! And don't advise others to snap theirs!
Go buy superglue debonder, it's sold pretty much everywhere that sells superglue. It's not expensive and it's far less likely to ruin your models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/29 14:53:47
Subject: Modelling problem
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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What can I say, I usually superglue metals
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/29 18:43:22
Subject: Modelling problem
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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Use fingernail polish remover to dissolve superglue.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/29 19:01:29
Subject: Modelling problem
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Gargantuan Gargant
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Won't nail polish remover mess with plastic models, though? Or is there some sort of non-acetone version that attacks CA glue and not polystyrene?
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The Dreadnote wrote:But the Emperor already has a shrine, in the form of your local Games Workshop. You honour him by sacrificing your money to the plastic effigies of his warriors. In time, your devotion will be rewarded with the gift of having even more effigies to worship. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/29 19:12:26
Subject: Modelling problem
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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Acetone won't hurt the plastic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/29 19:16:35
Subject: Modelling problem
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Gargantuan Gargant
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Really? I've heard differently. Time to grab a piece of sprue and see if my girlfriend has any to experiment with...
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The Dreadnote wrote:But the Emperor already has a shrine, in the form of your local Games Workshop. You honour him by sacrificing your money to the plastic effigies of his warriors. In time, your devotion will be rewarded with the gift of having even more effigies to worship. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/29 19:25:58
Subject: Modelling problem
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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Before doing anything - stick them in the freezer.
If the bond is just slightly crappy, the cold will help make the superglue fragile.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/29 19:33:21
Subject: Re:Modelling problem
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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I worked injection molding for quite a long time and believe it or not acetal (original material used in acetone) is used in producing many kinds of plastics. Therefore i dont think that it could warp, disfigure, or melt plastic in any way. The best solution for this even better than de-bonding sometimes could be using nail polish remover, considering that this will take most bond, plus much excess glue off of the model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/30 03:29:23
Subject: Modelling problem
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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I might give the acetone a try. I have tried the de bonding agent, but it didn't work. The glue was too deep into the joins of the model pieces. Something that I could soak it in would be perfect.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/30 03:58:51
Subject: Modelling problem
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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whenever i wanna strip my models of paint or glue, i let them soak in brake fluid for 12 hours, then take a soft bristle toothbrush to them and rinse them off.... good as new!
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Hawk Lords 2000+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/07 04:35:44
Subject: Modelling problem
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Privateer
The paint dungeon, Arizona
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Nail polish remover is a bad idea unless you like gambling with your plastic figs.
Heres why- the styrene GW uses is NOT consistant. Batches vary in content- sometimes this is noticeable as a color change- sometimes its not. Testing with a sprue will only work if its sprue from the kit the mini came from, which isnt always an option.
Snapping them apart, works fine if you're careful and didnt use too much glue. The freezer trick helps- as does working a slender tool into the seam to help work it apart. A flat sculpting tool is ideal for most, but I avoid the hobby knife here- its too easy to slip and do bad things to your figners or the mini.
Another option is a full soak, I suggest Powerclean or SimpleGreen over brake fluid(which is toxic, smelly and doesnt work that well). After a few days in Powerclean most plastic models assembled with super glue come apart easily, and the glue can be easily scraped off with a finger nail.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/07 06:34:09
Subject: Modelling problem
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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Can you be more specific about what type of powerclean or simple green to use? I have heard of them, but not used them before. I looked them up and see them as brand names with many sub types of cleansers. Thanks for the tips. I think that's the best option.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/07 11:15:50
Subject: Modelling problem
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Privateer
The paint dungeon, Arizona
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The 'tough task' cleaner/degreaser.
http://www.superclean.com/product1.php
Walmart usually has it in the auto supply section
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/14 10:20:22
Subject: Modelling problem
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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Is it safe to put down the drain or do I need to do some special stuff to take care of the used cleaning product? I've soaked a few minis and the paint has come off, letting it go a bit longer to see if the glue comes off like it should.
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2,200 (18% Painted)
4,000 (94% Painted)
1,000 (74% Painted)
800 (7% painted)
222 Painted 147 Incomplete |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/14 17:43:36
Subject: Modelling problem
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Privateer
The paint dungeon, Arizona
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If you used superclean its safe to pour down the drain. But- I'd recomend putting it back in hte bottle, or sealing it in a large tupperware type container. Ya never know when you might want to strip other figs in the future.
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