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Phanobi





Paso Robles, CA, USA

I'll try to post some pics but frankly I forgot to take too many of the actual game so here's the quick and dirty TT report:

Was up to 2 am the night before eating and drinking and had to be at the main hall at 7 am for the 40k Team Tournament. There were 119 4 man teams so over 400 people playing 40k in one room at the same time! We set up our models and organize our forces while reading over the missions. I have never seen more complicated missions. Each one had a Primary, Secondary, and Tertiary, as well as bonus points and "Command Counters" that gave further bonuses (usually extra scoring units). The missions were like you had to both have a scoring unit in a table quarter and it had to have this certain counter on it and the moon had to be in the right phase... I kept getting the primary and secondary missions mixed up and then the scoring and rules were on separate pages (which screwed us up in game 3). That aside, they were a lot of fun and certainly made you think.

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We see our opponents for game 1 and they are sporting basically mirror image IG but with Hydras and Manticores and Space Wolf Razorback spam. Basically lists taken right from YTTH. Reecius and I were paired up while Platuan4th and whitedragon were together this game. Reecius and I lose the die roll for first and looking at the wall of tanks and artillery facing us we deploy in reserve. We come on using a refused flank and try to engage half their army with whatever is coming on. This basically results in neither of us doing any significant damage to the other. We contest the center Primary objective and both teams score the secondary and tertiary. We had a chance of stopping them from getting the secondary, giving us basically 6 more points all done but Reecius' dice abandoned him and we were unable to kill the 5 IG legging it into our deployment zone. We made a few mistakes, but overall, we came out with a draw against a vastly superior force that went first so we were happy. We actually even scored more points than them with the bonuses so had technically won. Story was the same on our teammate's side except there it was a bloodbath but a draw none the less.

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Game 2 saw us paired up against another mech IG team. This time I was paired up with Whitedragon and we squared off against 2 Psyker Battle Squads, 2 Manticores, 2 Vendettas, and since certain Forgeworld items were allowed, each team member brought a Hades breaching drill. This 50 point (!!) item proved to be very popular and many IG teams were sporting one. It basically is a super-charged Mawloc, coming in from reserves and doing a S10, AP1 large blast (!!!) to whatever it comes up under and then a single squad gets to move on from the hole next turn as if walking on from a table edge. Missions was table quarters and we won first turn. Pretty uneventful on both sides as we traded shots, stunned a few of their tanks and vice versa. WD and I both had demolishers and they were proving their worth by shrugging off fire from their lines and wreaking havoc on the tanks lined up against us. Their turn 2 the first breaching drill emerged, flattened part of my command squad and did a "Live Free or Die Hard" moment and exploded the Vendetta hovering above it (!!!!). We managed to kill it thanks to our mystics but man that thing was annoying. Thankfully, the second one scattered when it came in a couple turns later and it played no part in the game. To wrap up, we were slowly gaining the upper hand and began wearing them down and trapping them in their own table quarter while we moved into position in the other three. They did decide they wanted to kill our commanders and spent 2 turns dropping manticore templates on their heads. My commander took a direct hit on the chin but when the smoke cleared, he had been saved by his refractor field. Next turn he wasn't so lucky and the S10 blast turned him into a pink mist.

We ended up scoring Primary, losing secondary, and drawing on tertiary. We also score several bonus points so had clearly defeated our opposing team. On the other board, Reecius and Platuan4th did great as well and won primary. Platuan's Primaris Psyker had a turkey shoot, shrugging off incoming fire and shooting his psychic attack to great effect (I may have to start using this guy, he performed great!). I hope next year they stop allowing FW into the TT. Most FW stuff is ridiculously overpriced but when you have a S10 AP1 large blast for only 50 pts that's pretty crazy.

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We headed up the list to Game 3 versus a hodgepodge list. Platuan and I faced off against Thunderwolf cav Space wolves and Berzerkers and a Lash Sorceror while Reecius and Whitedragon paired up against 16 Bloodcrushers and Skulltaker and 90 Orks plus 15 lootas. Looking over, I was pretty happy to say I wasn't on that table. Mission was Dawn of War with 4 objectives as the Primary mission. This was pretty much a turkey shoot as the Thunderwolves started all the way across the board and the lash sorc only had piddly guard squads to cast Lash on. We systemetically demolished one flank with the Zerkers, Sorc, Long Fangs, and Oblits then turned our attention to the Thunderwolves. The only thing I have to say about it is that the Psyker Battle Squad plus a Demolisher equals no more Thunderwolf cavalry. The PBS was the all-star of this game. They forced the Long Fangs to fall back out of cover so that the Stormtroopers could wipe them out in the next turn, they forced a Grey Hunters squad to fall back off the objective, letting me capture it, and they broke the TWolves on the last turn with no chance to rally. They didn't do great every game, but their abilities should not be underestimated. We ended up winning on our table, but we didn't read the scoring rules (which were on a different page than the scenario rules...) so didn't realize that we got fewer battle points for holding our own objectives than we got for taking the enemies. We could have loaded a squad in the Valk to score rather than shoot, but didn't so oh well. This game beat into my head how important it is to know the scenario thoroughly as we could have scored max points in this game but didn't know exactly what we had to do to do so.

Next to us, Reecius and WD took a beating but managed to keep their opponents to a pretty minor win. Overall we had more battle points than they did but not as many as we should have had.

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Last game is captain's choice and we decided to have Plat and Reecius pair up and me and WD pair up. We were playing the Da Boyz team, who won best theme this year and won overall in 2008. Scenario was "Marked for Death" where you chose one of your two opponents and could only score KP's on them. We chose Shaun Kemp, a great player and a terrific guy who's list seemed a bit weaker overall. They chose my list to be marked for death as well. They had 2 princes and 2 greater daemons as well as dropping Termies, Oblits, and lesser Daemons. We castled up with my stuff hiding behind WD's and they won first turn. This turned into a shooting gallery as they rushed to pin us down as we bombarded them on the way in. We managed to kill all princes and both greater daemons pretty quickly as well as wiped out a Chaos Marine squad that had disembarked right in front of us. They did a good job of keeping us penned in but we were able to wipe out most of their Marked force and won Primary but lost secondary and tertiary. So overall we won but they had nearly as many points as we did. Over on Reecius and Plat's side they decided that the obvious close ranged force was going to shoot them to death and so put their whole army in reserve... That pretty much cost them the game as once they arrived they were pounced by princes, greater daemons, oblits, etc and suffered a major defeat. If they had deployed on the board they would have wiped the Chaos marines off the table but that one mistake (and it was a big one) cost them everything. We had been up since before 7 and by this time it was in the evening so I think the toll the day was taking on everyone's brain affected those two. Or as they put it, they failed their stupidity check (some square base humor for y'all).

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We ended up 51st overall out of 119 teams so not bad for our first showing. I think next year we'll have a better handle on how the missions work (and hopefully they won't be as crazy as this year) so we should do better. Dakka Detachment 1, our sister team, took 7th overall with an Ork Kan army so kudos to them (though we placed higher in painting and quiz than they did ).

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I'll add some of my thoughts to flesh out the reports a little bit this weekend, but off the bat, these are the things I noticed from our armies:

- Vendettas eat your hearts out, Valkyries with Rocket Pods and Multi-lasers put out a TON of wounds. Throw in Heavy Bolters for even more dakka. Plus, it gives you like a million weapons for the "weapon destroyed" result!

- Primaris Psyker is a beast. When he turns it on, he pours out a TON of shots at S6. Really nice for just about everything.

- Pysker Battle Squad rocks hard. When you can't use weaken reasolve, the big blast works super nice instead. The larger the squad the better. Our opponents had a 5 man squad, and it wasn't nearly as effective as our full size squad.

- Orders. Orders make the game for the IG. A mechanized list can't fully make use of the orders, and the orders are great all the time. When Ozy and I teamed up, we had "hybrid" lists that could take full advantage of all the orders, and it really showed against our fully mechanized opponents in round 3.

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Sounds like y'all had a great time! What were your lists though?

All in all, fact is that Warhammer 40K has never been as balanced as it is now, and codex releases have never been as interesting as they are now (new units and vehicles and tons of new special rules/strategies each release -- not just the same old crap with a few changes in statlines and points costs).

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Paso Robles, CA, USA

My List:

CCS: 145 points
4 x Meltaguns, Chimera with ML/HB

Pysker Battle Squad - 155 pts
8 Psykers, 1 Overseer, Chimera with ML/HB

PCS - 55 pts
4 Flamers, Krak Grenades

Infantry Squad - 75 pts.
Autocannon, Plasma Gun

Infantry Squad - 75 pts.
Autocannon, Plasma Gun

Veteran Squad - 165 pts.
Autocannon, 3 x Meltaguns, Chimera w/ ML/HB

Hellhound - 130 pts
Heavy Flamer (Will can you confirm this)

Demolisher - 200 pts
Lascannon, Heavy Bolter Sponsons


Reecius' List:

CCS: L.Cannon, P.Gun x2, Chimera

PCS: Flamer x 4, Chimera
Platoon Squad 1: A.Cannon, P.Gun
Platoon Squad 2: A.Cannon, P.Gun
Platoon Squad 3: A.Cannon, P.Gun, Commissar
Vets: M.Gun x 3, Chimera

Vendetta

Demolisher, H.Bolter Sponsons, Hull H.Flamer

Whitedragon's List:

CCS (145)
4x Melta, Chimera

Inquisitor (72)
2x Mystics, 2x Vets with Plasmaguns

PCS (105)
4x Flamers, Chimera

Line Squad (120)
1x Autocannon, 1x Flamer, Chimera

Line Squad (65)
1x Autocannon, 1x Flamer

Veteran Squad (155)
3x Meltagun, Chimera

Vendetta (130)

Demolisher (205)
Plasma Sponsons, Heavy Flamer

Platuan4th's List:

Primaris Psyker - 70

10 Stormtroopers - 185
2 x Meltas

Veteran Squad - 120
Carapace
2 x Meltas
8 x Shotguns

Veteran Squad - 85
3 x Flamers

2 Valkyries - 280
2 x Multiple Rocket Pods
2 x Heavy Bolter Sponsons

2 Vendettas - 260


My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings.
Look on My works, Ye Mighty, and despair.

Chris Gohlinghorst wrote:Holy Space Marine on a Stick.

This conversation has even begun to boggle my internet-hardened mind.

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Biloxi, MS USA

Yeah, watching Ozy play, I know that now I HAVE to convert up a PBS for my own guard. They're too effective not to take, especially when teamed with a Primaris and/or CCS giving orders to other IG squads.

I'll probably start buying kits in May to get the pieces I need to do it. I wanna give my Guard a month or so off(mostly cause, even though I love them, I'm a bit wore out on them after that). In the mean time, I've got T Son kits to buy to make Chosen and Termies(magnetized so they can be more than just the Sorc led Apoc ones).

I think I might also start bringing the Demolisher. Its ranged isn't that hindering, and it tended to go together well with the Mech platoons.

Also, Reecius and I totally flubbed Round 4. If we had deployed and chosen to go first, I think we could have pulled out some sort of victory. We simply weren't thinking at all.

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Congrats on your successes! Way to represent, and can't wait to see what you guys do next year.

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Interesting on the Hades - I hadn't thought of that. Were you playing againtst Krieg Siege Armies, or were Adepticon allowing them in regular guard armies?

   
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Paso Robles, CA, USA

They were allowing them in regular Guard armies.

My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings.
Look on My works, Ye Mighty, and despair.

Chris Gohlinghorst wrote:Holy Space Marine on a Stick.

This conversation has even begun to boggle my internet-hardened mind.

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HATE Club, East London

Ozymandias wrote:They were allowing them in regular Guard armies.


Wow, well that's a pretty huge boost to an otherwise average piece of equipment. The disadvantage of Hades is that they can ONLY be followed up by a squad of Krieg Engineers. If you change the rules to allow any IG army to follow them with any squad, you give them a massive advantage.

I think a tournament that includes FW stuff is great, but not when various bits of FW kit get random boosts like that....

   
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ArbitorIan wrote:
Ozymandias wrote:They were allowing them in regular Guard armies.


Wow, well that's a pretty huge boost to an otherwise average piece of equipment. The disadvantage of Hades is that they can ONLY be followed up by a squad of Krieg Engineers. If you change the rules to allow any IG army to follow them with any squad, you give them a massive advantage.

I think a tournament that includes FW stuff is great, but not when various bits of FW kit get random boosts like that....


Hmm, Krieg only eh? That makes alot more sense in the context of that list. Yea, they were pretty freakin' wrong all the way around. Thank god the Inquisitor and Mystics were there to keep the damage to a minimum.

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Biloxi, MS USA

Some pictures of the games(and other things, including Ozy sleeping) can be found here:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-320-7426_Adepticon%202010.html

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Las Vegas, NV

Yeah the Hades was so dumb, that thing is slowed for 50 points. The damn thing killed one of Plautan4th's Vendettas mid air to deny us the massacre in game 2.

We blew it so hard on game 4! Hahaha, we were just super tied going on 4 hours sleep, and in game 4 we just weren't thinking. They had NOTHING but a defiler on board that could even hurt us and we very wisely decided to reserve our shooty army? Just one of those dumb mistakes you make.

But we had an absolute blast. I know we are all pumped for next year and at my local another team went and we all came back saying how awesome it was and now I know there will be at least one more team coming from my store.

I can't recommend it enough, such a good time.

We will do a lot better next time, as I know we have the skill level for it.

   
 
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