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Hello all.
One of my friends have decided to pick up this hobby and he asked me for help getting started. Problem is I aint all that good either. He decided on tyranids and I have tried to help him with a decent but still cheap list to begin with. Any pointers tips on this list or changes that should be made is more then welcome
Well enough typing here comes the list.

HQ
Tyranid Prime
2x Boneswords
Schyting talon

Elite
2x Hive Gaurd

Troops
24x Termagaunts
16x Hormagaunts
10x Genstealers, Schyting talans
5x Warriors, 4 Deathspitters, 1 Barbed Strangler

Heavy
Trygon
Prime
Regeneration

Thats 1001 points 4 troops, and 7 kill points.
Prime goes with Hivegaurd.

This list is based on buying 1 battle box, 1 warrior box, 1 trygon, 2 hive gaurds and then stealing some figs from an old starter set we have lying around. Just wonder if this is a good idea or have I misslead my friend, and need to change my advice?

Not bad but here's what i would do...

HQ
Tyranid Prime
2x Boneswords
Schyting talon - Put this dude with your Warriors for the specail benefits

Elite
2x Hive Gaurd

Troops
24x Termagaunts - Reduce this to 10 and take a troop choice Tervigon. Thats an MC that can hold objectives! Plus it has synapse and allows for more synapse coverage with your Prime now with your Warriors
16x Hormagaunts
10x Genstealers, Schyting talans - Drop ST and get Toxin Sacs, rerolls for more rends.
5x Warriors, 4 Deathspitters, 1 Barbed Strangler

Heavy
Trygon
Prime
Regeneration - Drop Regen, you'll be lucky to get a wound back. Give it Adrenal Glands if anything.

It looks like the hive guards are not as good as another trygon,I would take out some gaunts and the guards for one more tough trygon

hmmm, 2 Trygons is a little over kill for 1000 points. I agree it would be nice to see an extra MC in there and to me a Tervigon is the perfect option.

Hive Guard are more than good enough to deal with light armour and you have a Trygon Prime (+ AG possibly) to slap anything bigger.

Im gonna go with @Tony the guardsman

Having 2 trygons at 1k seems a bit much. Also he likes the gaurds range and shoot throu cover thingie.
So he will most likly keep em.

On the other hand much of what L0rdF1end said makes sense. After having recheked the poisen rules in the rulebook it seems stupid not to have that on the genstealers ^^
Swaping regenaration on the trygon for adrenal sacks also makes sense, and frees up some points.

But he has some problems with the Tervigon. 1st he is afraid of not having enough scoring power if he removes the troops to get one. But I can see how spawning more will solve that.
Second he fears for kill point missions, the tervigon will in his mind just spawn free kill points for the oponent.
And third he is lazy so if he can he prefers not to convert things (easy for me to help there thou).

It's the troops I'm having most problems with myself, the rest seems kinda straighforward in the army. Anyone able to give him some input on the tervigon? Is his fears jusified or is it a big mistake not fitting it in somehow?

Tervigons are worth thier weight in gold.

Just sit them on an objective and spawn gants as living shields for it.

1 in a 1,000 point army will be a pain, 2 would be overkill though.


Failing that:

HQ - tervigon: catalyst

Troop - 10 termigants
Troop - 10 termigants
Troop - tervigon
Troop - tervigon

That would give a solid base for an annoying army.
Remaining points can be used for anti-tank unit/s.
Or grab another tervigon in HQ and hope for objective missions lol.

"Second he fears for kill point missions, the tervigon will in his mind just spawn free kill points for the oponent".

Just don't spawn in kill point games, easy I've played quite a few games with the nids and I know how valuable a tervigon is a troop choice. 66% of games are objective based.

2 Tervigons at 1000 points might be too much and i doubt it will give you the points spare to make the other suggested changes. 2 MC's with the changes I mentioned above I feel would make that a very scary force to deal with.

Ok my friend has gone to bed, he has work tomorov (he actually kidnapped me, forced me to help and is having me sleep on his couch). But I'll see if I can sell the tervigon idea to him, if I cant and if it was a solid option it will just mean my ork's will stomp him easier ^^

Well to fit a tervigon in, the list will need to change some. He likes the trygon and hive gaurd so that leaves the troops to take the hit. Here is the new modified list, if modified wrong feel free to point it out

HQ
Tyranid Prime
2x Boneswords
Schyting talon
(Might change his set up if he walks with warriors)

Elite
2x Hive Gaurd

Troops
10x Termagaunts
15x Hormagaunts
8x Genstealers, Toxic sacs
3x Warriors, 2 Deathspitters, 1 Barbed Strangler
1x Tervigon

Heavy
Trygon
Prime
Adrenal glands

Totals 996 points

Yeah that looks awesome, You're right, maybe make the Warriors more CC, test things out a bit and see how it works. Good list though, i like it.