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Hi,
in another thread, some people showed interest in having Space Marine helmets with Roman style crests.
Today, "Secret Weapon" has released conversion bits to make exactly that:
http://www.secretweaponminiatures.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=23&products_id=65
It is their first conversion kit. Otherwise they are mostly known for bases.

Those are really cool.

*Runs off to find credit-card*

The greys look awesome, their show off paint one needs to be redone, I instantly frowned a little on what looks like a good product.

That's pretty cool. Already made my own out of Dire Avenger helmets awhile back, or this would be something I'd have to get.

I think I would like them better if they were 5 matching ones on a single sprue and have 4 or 5 diffrent types of sprues. I like my squads to be matching. Unless of course they will sell them as bags of 5 or 10 of all the same style.
They do look good.

So awesome! I might order some for my sternguard.

They look big....I'd like to see some sideways crests...

Those are pretty dope, I must say. And I was just thinking to myself yesterday, "You know, I could really use some Roman crests for my SM's helmets."

I am think of geting som for my marines and have them next to my Space Wolves just for the Roman/Barbatian comparison

As a personal preference (variant) I'd have cut the hair mount that attached to the helmet down by at least a half as it looks too exagerated on the raised bit the helet comes modeled with.

Might get some for a Roman Marine army.

Tim the Biovore wrote:Might get some for a Roman Marine army.

Yeah I think that is the point of the thread...

/swoon

These just saved me a lot of time. I second the request for some sideways crests.

they look like a pretty poor quality sculpt to me.

Although I don't expect much better from any company making it's ways from doing GW conversion parts.

hmm...

I could make some snazzy noise marines with these. Because, hey... they're mohawks!

i object to the term roman seeing as they stole it from the greeks

pcon426 wrote:i object to the term roman seeing as they stole it from the greeks

Traditionally, only Greek officers wore crests, where as the standard Roman infantry wore them as well as officers.

That's why they're often called "Roman" crests, because the imagery of the Roman soldier includes it, unlike the imagery of the Greek soldier.

That said, the Plumes were more used for Parades than in combat.

Eh I like the idea and have especially attempted it myself but not too fond of the execution personally the ideal of what I keep trying at is



Sicarius' model gets it close but it's way to high off the helmet and a tad too big



for the forward crest I think the ultramarines honor guard chapter champion has the right size and lift from the head




I keep trying to replicate it with mixed results though.

Platuan4th wrote:

pcon426 wrote:i object to the term roman seeing as they stole it from the greeks

Traditionally, only Greek officers wore crests, where as the standard Roman infantry wore them as well as officers.

That's why they're often called "Roman" crests, because the imagery of the Roman soldier includes it, unlike the imagery of the Greek soldier.

That said, the Plumes were more used for Parades than in combat.

Platuan - I think you have that backwards. Crests were very common among the Greek Hoplites.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hoplite_fight_from_Athens_Museum.jpg

RanTheCid wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:

pcon426 wrote:i object to the term roman seeing as they stole it from the greeks

Traditionally, only Greek officers wore crests, where as the standard Roman infantry wore them as well as officers.

That's why they're often called "Roman" crests, because the imagery of the Roman soldier includes it, unlike the imagery of the Greek soldier.

That said, the Plumes were more used for Parades than in combat.

Platuan - I think you have that backwards. Crests were very common among the Greek Hoplites.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hoplite_fight_from_Athens_Museum.jpg

In art, yes. But the actual helmets most Greeks wore lacked them, where as the standard Roman Galea helmet had a nub for attaching a crest during parades.

Greek Corinthian Helm:



Roman Galea Helm:



Notice that thing on top? That's where the crest attaches.

I don't doubt the Roman officers wore crests - either on the parade grounds or not. The common soldier would have worn feathers during the Republic or horse hair plumes up through the time of JC.

As for the Greeks - I'll let you take it up with Connolly and tell him he's doing it wrong.

omg those white scar helmets are awesome. i need!!!!

Those are the Sons of Horus son, not the White Scars.

faeslayer wrote:hmm...

I could make some snazzy noise marines with these. Because, hey... they're mohawks!

I was gonna suggest that too

BrookM wrote:Those are the Sons of Horus son, not the White Scars.

are you sure its just with the red scarring on their weapons and armour i thought they might have been WS's,
also you didnt intentionally call me son yeah?


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just had another look yr quite right i see the chapter markings now

shakey787 wrote:

BrookM wrote:Those are the Sons of Horus son, not the White Scars.

are you sure its just with the red scarring on their weapons and armour i thought they might have been WS's,
also you didnt intentionally call me son yeah?


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just had another look yr quite right i see the chapter markings now

Funny... looked like the Luna Wolves to me...

MeanGreenStompa wrote:

shakey787 wrote:

BrookM wrote:Those are the Sons of Horus son, not the White Scars.

are you sure its just with the red scarring on their weapons and armour i thought they might have been WS's,
also you didnt intentionally call me son yeah?


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just had another look yr quite right i see the chapter markings now

Funny... looked like the Luna Wolves to me...

Right, same chapter, different name.

Wonder if they'll fit on necron heads.