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I have perused several Blood Angel lists on this forum and there seems to be a complete lack of Death Company. Why is this?
My own list runs 15 Death Company in a Landraider Crusader, all armed with Boltguns and Sergeant with powerfist is this wrong/bad

In my experience with Death Company (playing against them) their rules can be a bit of a liablity against a cunning opponent. For example, since they must move towards the nearest enemy and try to get into CC it is really easy to either lure them across an open killing ground where you can shoot them to death, or you can lure them through difficult/dangerous terrain, or force them to attack a CC monster that will slaughter them all.

First, in my opinion boltguns on them is useless because tactical marines get them for cheaper. My advice build the rest or you army first then whatever points are left give the DC lots of good weapons. And dont let them out the land raider till your next to somthing juicy.

Run your list a couple of times and tweak accordingly.

But, boltguns on an assault unit doesn't make a lot of sense. If you rapid fire, can't assault.

It's not wrong it just seems to be a little bit strange to give them all ranged weapons.

Death company are designed for cc so to give them medium ranged weapons seems a little redundant as they are going to do a lot more damage if kitted out for cc.

The land raider is a good idea though as it gives you more control on where they go during the battle.

how did you get 15 into 1 land raider? iirc land raider can only hold 10

epil wrote:how did you get 15 into 1 land raider? iirc land raider can only hold 10

Well the Crusaders can hold 16, so he's probably talking about one of those.

Basic landraiders and the Redeemer pattern can hold 12. The Crusader pattern holds 16.

Godhammer 10
Redeemer 12
Crusader 16

Corvus wrote:In my experience with Death Company (playing against them) their rules can be a bit of a liablity against a cunning opponent. For example, since they must move towards the nearest enemy and try to get into CC it is really easy to either lure them across an open killing ground where you can shoot them to death, or you can lure them through difficult/dangerous terrain, or force them to attack a CC monster that will slaughter them all.

Especially if you face against dark eldar and eldar- they can use jetbikes to pull your death company around the board like puppets.

Exarch_Nektel wrote:

Corvus wrote:In my experience with Death Company (playing against them) their rules can be a bit of a liablity against a cunning opponent. For example, since they must move towards the nearest enemy and try to get into CC it is really easy to either lure them across an open killing ground where you can shoot them to death, or you can lure them through difficult/dangerous terrain, or force them to attack a CC monster that will slaughter them all.

Especially if you face against dark eldar and eldar- they can use jetbikes to pull your death company around the board like puppets.

lol yeah, I just dragged them in and out of dangerous terrain until half the squad had died, popped one or two with ID weapons, and finally they made it to my war walkers, which promptly kicked the survivors in the face

cosmic pixie wrote:Godhammer 10
Redeemer 12
Crusader 16

Iirc Godhammer is the pattern of the sponson lascannons. Phobos is the pattern of the tank
I think...

Doesn't Relentless let them rapid fire and assault?

Corvus wrote:In my experience with Death Company (playing against them) their rules can be a bit of a liablity against a cunning opponent. For example, since they must move towards the nearest enemy and try to get into CC it is really easy to either lure them across an open killing ground where you can shoot them to death, or you can lure them through difficult/dangerous terrain, or force them to attack a CC monster that will slaughter them all.

Rage doesn't work like this. You have to move towards them, but you don't have to assault. The trick with baiting is to constantly force them to be out of assault range of anything they could actually kill.

Nothing wrong with a DC, but you have to make them an assault squad or other heavy weaponry squad. Friend of mine has a 7 men DC, including the Chaplain and the Dreadnought. The remaining 5 are assault marines. One of them (perhaps the chaplain) had an Infernus pistol. The tiny squad took out a Rhino with 10 CSM units and a magician; the infernus pistol blew up the Rhino in one shot.
Ideally, you play a game with some cover for the DC, so they can get to the enemies unharmed and then flank them.

chub wrote:I have perused several Blood Angel lists on this forum and there seems to be a complete lack of Death Company. Why is this?

Because they are an expensive NON-SCORING troop choice that take up slots (and points) better used by other units.
Don't get me wrong. I own Death Company (and I just started the army, so they aren't hold overs from a different time), but they'll always be in last place behind Assault Marines & Sanguinary Guard (with the Sanguinor) when competing for my troop slots. I'll only ever play them in "fluffy" lists, and probably never more than 10 of 'em.

Eric

Monster Rain wrote:Doesn't Relentless let them rapid fire and assault?

Yes it does. I found a big flaw yesterday when playing a CSM army, (it was the usual twin prince with lash variant) unfortunately he immobilised my crusader, so in my turn I disembarked and started to shoot the deamon prince prior to assault, unfortunately Deamon Princes dont stand up well to 30 bolter shots this left me in the open to be lashed and obliterated, I have now decided to drop to 10 DC and added a chaplain. I also changed from a crusader to a redeemer