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Farseer 55
Doom25 , Guide 20
Runes of warding 15
Spirit Stone 20

Farseer 55
Doom25 , Guide 20
Spirit Stone 20

Firedragons x 9 160
Wave 90


Firedragons x 9 160
Wave 90


Firedragons x 9 160
Wave 90

Dire Avengers x 5 w/ Wave 150 Exarch w/ Diresword and shurican pistol +22

Dire Avengers x 5 w/ Wave 150 Exarch w/ Diresword and shurican pistol +22


Dire Avengers x 5 w/ Wave 150 Exarch w/ Diresword and shurican pistol +22


Dire Avengers x 5 w/ Wave 150


Dire Avengers x 5 w/ Wave 150



Fire Prisms 125
W/ Spirit stone
Fire Prisms 125
W/ Spirit stone
Fire Prisms 125
W/ Spirit stone

So this is my first attempt at eldar so bare with me here. The general strategy is place the fire prisms in the back and let them let loose with the fire cannons and rush up with the fire dragons and drop them off next to some armor and unload their melta shots on it.

The overall point cost is 1998 and I'm thinking of maybe trimming down the fire dragon squads to buff up the dire avengers or maybe give them exarchs with tank hunter to really hammer in killing armor. I could also get fortune on my farseers and try to keep my dragons alive longer.

Some of your serps are Illegal. You must take a gun on them.

lol my bad got to add 10 points on every serpent to give them their twin linked shuriken cannons. I'd probly drop down my fires to 8 to make up the points or take out one of the exarchs to free up points.

And you can give direblades to dire avengers just only to the exarchs.

Farely common setup, but some things to know.

Farseers: Where are they being placed? Are they with the Da? If so why guide? Are they with the Fire Dragons? If so why Doom?

Diresword = Useless.. serious useless. CC Exarch on a 5 man pack of DA (or DA in general) useless. Your DA are T3 S3, even if you land the hits with a PW your looking at a 5+ to wound a marines, and in return you'll get hit upside the head with a S8 powerfist and a bunch of S4 hits.

Fire Dragons: In that config for Fire Dragons you should use them as Marine pack hunters, tearing down whole marine packs where you can. 8-9 Dragons vs vehicles is overkill and 8-9 Dragons with Tank Hunters is OVERKILL.

Prisms with SS: They have a firing range of 60", at that range is the ability to move while stunned an issue for you?

BlueDagger wrote:
Prisms with SS: They have a firing range of 60", at that range is the ability to move while stunned an issue for you?

The board really isn't that big with a large slant towards fast mech/mech/deepstrike/outflank/turbo boosting/etc.

Good point. If I drop the SS i'll free up points and drop the dire swords.

I think it would be wise to keep the dragons at their 8-9 squad because it does give me that versatility if need be to unload into a squad. Should I swap them down for a squad of 5-6 for tank hunting and 8-10 for MEQ hunting and if need be they can go for vehicles if its more prudent to kill them instead foot sloggers.

What would a better farseer power set up? Guide on the dragons to make sure they hit and maybe an offensive power like mind war or something like that? I could possibly buff up the DA and give the exarch blade storm to give them some more shots to help them stay out of melee.

A large dragon squad is devastating to MEQ, major issue is that they still have a short range and squish really easily. 5-6 is the max you'll want for tank killing, because when you down your target your going to have a nasty swarm all over you before you can get away (if your opponent is smart).

If the Farseer is going with the Dragons then go balls out. Take 9 Dragons w an Exarch w/ Flamer and Crack Shot and take the Farseer with Fortune/Guide. You then have 9 Twin Link s8 ap1 shots, 1 Twin Link Heavy Flamer, and if manage cover do to good positioning you could have a 4+ cover save with reroll. Pricey but not much that can stand up to that volley.

DA really only has 2 configs in my mind that are cost effective. 9 DA with Exarch w/ Dual Catas & Bladestorm or 5 man DA squad no Exarch.

Farseer 55
Fortune 30 , Guide 20
Runes of warding 15
Spirit Stone 20

Farseer 55
Fortune 30, Guide 20
Spirit Stone 20

Firedragons x 10 160
Exarct w/ Dragon's breath Crack shot +17
100


Firedragons x 10 160
Exarct w/ Dragon's breath Crack shot +17
100

Firedragons x 10 160
Exarct w/ Dragon's breath Crack shot +17
100

Dire Avengers 160

Dire Avengers 160


Dire Avengers 160


Dire Avengers 160


Dire Avengers 160



Fire Prisms 115

Fire Prisms 115

Fire Prisms 115

Grand total 1987.

I got a good feeling about that number because it was when I was born, Totally going to use it! Actually what do you guys think of this list compared to the other, put down the DA's to 5 and just went balls out with the dragons. I could spent another some odd points on farseer or different weapon on the wave serpents but meh.

Pure ridiculous. . .

Screw it I'm taking shining spears!

Drop one DA/Serpent and take some weapon upgrades to the remaining DA serpents, such as EMLs or Bright lances wo make them more of a threat. That way your enemy has the 3 big dangers to worry about, 3 more dangers of the prisms, and then additional danger ofr the DA serpent AT.

if I drop out 1 DA and upgrade with 2 EML and 2 Bright lances I'm sitting at

1837 points by my count with the remaining points should I beef up the DA squads a few bodies or upgrade the farseer. I could like 2 warlocks and give them embolden or destructor for more templates on a squad being attacked


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or I could upgrade the waves on the Firedragons for even more firepower and another threat that's going to get into their face. I'd probly use scatter lasers or something with a lot of shots for more infanty control or more anti mech.

Shatter.proof wrote:if I drop out 1 DA and upgrade with 2 EML and 2 Bright lances I'm sitting at

1837 points by my count with the remaining points should I beef up the DA squads a few bodies or upgrade the farseer. I could like 2 warlocks and give them embolden or destructor for more templates on a squad being attacked


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or I could upgrade the waves on the Firedragons for even more firepower and another threat that's going to get into their face. I'd probly use scatter lasers or something with a lot of shots for more infanty control or more anti mech.

2 Warlocks where? Nothing you have can take those and a it's a minimum 3 for the detached unit that the farseer can take but then they would be on foot.

I think you have your math a bit off. On your second post you had 1987 pts, you took off 160, then add 110 worth of upgrades so your now sitting at 63 points left.

Give one of your Prisms Holofields and use it as your Prism you are taking shots with and hide it's linker behind stuff.

Take spirit stones on the two Serpents with Farseers.


You don't want to take additional firepower on the Dragon serpents because they will already be a huge threat. At the start of the turn toss fortune on them and move full out, that will give you a 75% save on top of the already hard to crack serpent.

If I put Runes of the witness, spiritstones on the 2 waves serpents with the farseer ( I think thats what you ment) and put a spirit stone on the fire prism I should have 3 points left over.. I could throw a singing spear on one of the farseers for.. why not really I mean what else am I going to spend 3 points on.

sorry was in the middle of two thoughts there:

Holos + 2 SS = 55 pts, you'd have 8 left over. Don't take Spears, when your dragons get out to open fire keep your Farseer in the serpent where it's safe.

So take the holofields on my fire prism and 2 ss on my 2 wave serpents and just forget runes of the witness because I don't have enough points for it.

Is it worth getting crack shot on the exarch with the flame thrower? He just gets to reroll wounds and no cover save yet he gets that with doom and no cover saves with a flame thrower anyways, it seems like a point sink with that wargear because he doesn't give crackshot to the whole squad (which would rock..)

Put it this way what sounds nastier?

S5 AP4 vs T4 - # of hits will vary but that can be a pile of things hit.

Auto hit, wound on 3+

5 pts more - Auto hit, wound on 3+ with reroll any fails

Yeah but you still get the reroll any failed wounds with doom anyways... Wait a minute.. I don't think the eldar flame thrower gets the negates cover and doom can always fail so your right its worth it.

Um, all flame throws negate cover saves, your second list doesn't have doom.

OH right.. I dropped doom for guide. My bad lol.


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I must have done some serious math wrong because I redid it and at 2k this is what I have

Removed list because it listed individual point costs for all the wargear, and I'm too lazy to just edit it out. Please only post point totals for the unit, not for each option. - Lorek

Don't post individual pt costs, they are under GW copyright.

The lists posted so far are newbie lists.
I recommend to search for some competitive mech lists.

Meh, if no one ever breaks out of the mold and tries new things you never know what else will be competitive

You don't need 10 fire dragons in each unit. A unit of 5 should be more than enough.

He's planning to MEQ hunt with them, not vehicle hunt.

I see I see. Wouldn't dark reapers be best for that then? I know they have dual purpose but he has little to pop armour, besides the dragons.

Reapers will get eaten by anything that DSs and a smart Marines will stay out of range till they are dead.

What's the range on reapers? I don't use them.

have any of you thought about taking howling banshees 10 strong and putting them in a wave with a farseer for Meq give the farseer doom and guide pop them out near cover and they can move faster than marines so catch them out

Banshees suffer from the issue of no assault vehicles. You have to setup the attack which most should see coming a mile away. If you get too close they will just block the exit hatch, if you're too far away they will just move away out of assault range. Plus you have to bank on doom landing and everything an it's mother has a psy hood effect.

Reapers are 36" for tempest, 48" Reaper Launcher and Missile Launcher. Literally all you have to is land a Droppod for of marines or a Dread next to the reapers and you kiss them goodbye. If your protecting them with a screening unit or Fortuneseer then the cost of the reapers as a whole element because inefficient.

mercer wrote:What's the range on reapers? I don't use them.

Its the same as that of a missile launcher.

DR's are not so good in the new ed, since cover saves are almost everywhere.