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Ork List #1 Minimum with Variety
HQ
Big Mek w/ KFF, Eavy armor 90pts
Warboss PK Cybork, Eavy Armor 100 pts.
Troops
11x Slugga Boyz, Nob PK BP in Trukk w. Ram. (HQ here) 146pts
11x Slugga Boyz, Nob PK BP in Trukk w. Ram (HQ here) 146 pts
20x Shoota Boyz, 2 Big Shootas, Nob PK BP (in BW) 170pts
20x Shoota Boyz, 2 Big Shootas, Nob PK BP (in BW) 170pts
6x Nob Bikers w/ Cybork, Painboy, Banner, 2x PK, BP 400pts.
10x Gretchin w. RuntHerder 40pts.
Elite
10x Lootas 150pts
10x Lootas 150pts
10x Kommandos Snikrot 2x Burnas 210pts
Heavy Support
1x BattleWagons RPJ, Big Shoota, Deffrolla 120pts
1x BattleWagons RPJ, Big Shoota, Deffrolla 120pts
3x Killa Kans w. KMB's (165) or Grotzookas (150) 150- 165pts
Fast Attack
5x Deffkoptas w. TL Rokkits 220pts
3x Warbuggies w. TL Rokkits 105 pts

Total 2497 pts.

Ork List #2 (less variety, More 'ard Stuff)
HQ
Ork Warboss on Bike, PK, Cybork, Kombi Skorcha 140pts
Big Mek, KFF, Burna, Cybork 110pts.
Troops
20x Shoota Boyz, 2 Big Shootas, Nob PK BP (in BW) 170pts
20x Shoota Boyz, 2 Big Shootas, Nob PK BP (in BW) 170pts
11x Slugga Boyz, Nob PK BP in Trukk w. Ram (KFF here) 146 pts
8x Nob Bikers 545pts
Nob #1 Slugga/Choopa
Nob # 2 Big Choppa
Nob # 3 Big Choppa/Combi-Skorcha
Nob # 4 Waaugh Banner
Nob # 5 PK
Nob # 6 PK Skorcha
Nob # 7 Painboy
Nob # 8 PK Bosspole.
29 Gretchin w. 2x Runtherders 107pts
Heavy Support
2x BW w/ Deffrollas, Big Shoota (RPJ or Grot Riggers) 240pts
3x Killa Kans KMB 165pts
Elite
15x Lootas 225pts
15x Lootas 225pts
Fast Attack
3x Warbuggies w. TL Rokkits 105pts

At this point I have 152 pts left. I could either get another trukk of Boyz for 152 exactly, or a 3rd squad of 10x Lootas for 150pts. I'm also considering adding a 3rd Wagon instead of Killa Kans and filling it with either Burnas or more Shoota Boyz.

Ork List # 3 Nob Biker Galore
HQ
Ork Warboss on Bike, PK, Cybork, Kombi Skorcha 140pts
Ork Warboss on Bike, PK, Cybork, Kombi Skorcha 140pts
Troops
20x Shoota Boyz, 2 Big Shootas, Nob PK BP (in BW) 170pts
20x Shoota Boyz, 2 Big Shootas, Nob PK BP (in BW) 170pts
8x Nob Bikers -Same as above list (Warboss 1) 545pts
8x Nob Bikers -Same as Above (Warboss 2) 545pts
Heavy Support
2x BW w/ Deffrollas, Big Shoota (RPJ or Grot Riggers) 240pts
Elite
15x Lootas 225pts
15x Lootas 225pts

That's about 2400pts. I have 100pts left which I could use for Warbuggies or perhaps Gretchin.
I also thought of downgrading some of the Bikers (perhaps take one down to the bare minimum 400pt squad), or taking out a few Lootas. This might free up enough enough to add another BW full of Burnas.

Ork List # 4 Battlewagon Brigade
Big Mek - KFF
Warboss - PK
15x Lootas
15x Lootas
15x Lootas
10x Nobs w/painboy as Troops- Assorted BC and PK in Battle Wagon with 2xBS and Deff Rolla
20x Shoota Boys w/Nob - 2x BS and PK on nob
20x Shoota Boys w/Nob - 2x BS and PK on nob
20x Shoota Boys w/Nob - 2x BS and PK on nob
Deff Dread as a troop
3x Battle Wagons w/deff rolla and 2x bigshoota

Another list that was suggested to me by a user on the DakkaDakka forums. I don't know if I would have enough BattleWagons to run this, but it sounds tempting. Some things I would change would be the DeffDread, which I would probably replace w. Gretchin. Also, I don't know where the Big Mek would go, but if I have enough points, I may get a Trukkload of 'Ard boyz

Some other things I'm considering are Burna Boyz in a BW, 'Ard Boyz and perhaps reg. Warbikers.

*crit by wall of text*

I'd probably say I like the BW brigade the best, but it's hard to say. I'll stick to general comments.
Burna boyz in a BW would be a great addition to any of the lists. A trukk-load full of wounds from 15 templates or a lot of power weapons charging out.

It's up to you, but I would switch all of the boyz to slugga boyz. Although many people say shoota boyz are better than slugga boyz if they both shoot and charge,
slugga boyz actually will do more wounds than shoota boyz taking into consideration losses if they both charge a standard 10 man tac squad.
You can also usually skip the special weapons on boyz squads in trukks or BWs since they won't be firing much.

It depends on how many guys you lose before you attack, but overall in transports I say you should give them slugga and choppa.

Also on the first list you'd be better off putting the HQs in the BWs, at least the KFF mek. It's important to keep that as safe as possible.
Although if you're hiding the trukk with the KFF in it entirely behind the BWs it could work fine there too I suppose.

Icehawk18 wrote:*crit by wall of text*

I'd probably say I like the BW brigade the best, but it's hard to say. I'll stick to general comments.
Burna boyz in a BW would be a great addition to any of the lists. A trukk-load full of wounds from 15 templates or a lot of power weapons charging out.

It's up to you, but I would switch all of the boyz to slugga boyz. Although many people say shoota boyz are better than slugga boyz if they both shoot and charge,
slugga boyz actually will do more wounds than shoota boyz taking into consideration losses if they both charge a standard 10 man tac squad.
You can also usually skip the special weapons on boyz squads in trukks or BWs since they won't be firing much.

It depends on how many guys you lose before you attack, but overall in transports I say you should give them slugga and choppa.

Also on the first list you'd be better off putting the HQs in the BWs, at least the KFF mek. It's important to keep that as safe as possible.
Although if you're hiding the trukk with the KFF in it entirely behind the BWs it could work fine there too I suppose.

I think if I did run Burnas, it would only be 10 in a BW. So it would take up a Heavy slot and prevent me from taking a 3rd squad of Lootas or Shoota Boyz in BW.

I would run the Big mek in a BW if I didn't Shootas in there. The reason I put him in a Trukk (which WILL be Behind a BW) is because I need 20x Boyz to get 2x Big Shootas in Most cases.

Thanks for the input though. I definitely feel like squeezing in the Burna Boyz, although people on other forums say they're less than optimal (Matter of Fact, many people think they're one of the worst units because of lack of a dedicated transport)

What are you after here? Advice on which list to take? Critique on each? I think you should pick the list you want to take to 'Ard Boyz and fine-tune it. That's what we're here for.

Dashofpepper wrote:What are you after here? Advice on which list to take? Critique on each? I think you should pick the list you want to take to 'Ard Boyz and fine-tune it. That's what we're here for.

Yeah, I was actually trying to get an idea of which list would be the most competetive and perhaps which list I should take.

However, If I had to pick one, I would probably pick List #2. Mainly because I feel it has a strong amount of the units that are the most important, and doesn't require as much convertin' to get models I might be a bit short on.

So, I think I would probably run this.

Ork List #2 (less variety, More 'ard Stuff)
HQ
Ork Warboss on Bike, PK, Cybork, Kombi Skorcha 140pts
Big Mek, KFF, Burna, Cybork 110pts.
Troops
20x Shoota Boyz, 2 Big Shootas, Nob PK BP (in BW) 170pts
20x Shoota Boyz, 2 Big Shootas, Nob PK BP (in BW) 170pts
11x Slugga Boyz, Nob PK BP in Trukk w. Ram (KFF here) 146 pts
12x Slugga Boyz Nob PK BP in Trukk w. Ram 152 pts.
8x Nob Bikers 545pts
Nob #1 Slugga/Choopa
Nob # 2 Big Choppa
Nob # 3 Big Choppa/Combi-Skorcha
Nob # 4 Waaugh Banner
Nob # 5 PK
Nob # 6 PK Skorcha
Nob # 7 Painboy
Nob # 8 PK Bosspole.
29 Gretchin w. 2x Runtherders 107pts
Elite
15x Lootas 225pts
15x Lootas 225pts

Heavy Support
2x BW w/ Deffrollas, Big Shoota (RPJ or Grot Riggers) 240pts

This leaves me with 270 pts. I would probably choose one of the following..

Option A.
3x Killa Kans KMB 165pts (heavy)
Fast Attack
3x Warbuggies w. TL Rokkits 105pts (fast)

Option B.
10x Burna Boyz in BW w. Deffrolla, Big shoota, Paint job OR riggers. (150 for Boys, 120 for Wagon).

I also like Lists 3 and 4, but I'm not sure I have enough Lootas, Nob Bikers or BattleWagons at this time. However, if I were properly motivated, I may find the time to throw something together for them!

Darkzephyr wrote:

Dashofpepper wrote:What are you after here? Advice on which list to take? Critique on each? I think you should pick the list you want to take to 'Ard Boyz and fine-tune it. That's what we're here for.

Yeah, I was actually trying to get an idea of which list would be the most competetive and perhaps which list I should take.

However, If I had to pick one, I would probably pick List #2. Mainly because I feel it has a strong amount of the units that are the most important, and doesn't require as much convertin' to get models I might be a bit short on.

So, I think I would probably run this.

Ork List #2 (less variety, More 'ard Stuff)
HQ
Ork Warboss on Bike, PK, Cybork, Kombi Skorcha 140pts
Big Mek, KFF, Burna, Cybork 110pts.
Troops
20x Shoota Boyz, 2 Big Shootas, Nob PK BP (in BW) 170pts
20x Shoota Boyz, 2 Big Shootas, Nob PK BP (in BW) 170pts
11x Slugga Boyz, Nob PK BP in Trukk w. Ram (KFF here) 146 pts
12x Slugga Boyz Nob PK BP in Trukk w. Ram 152 pts.
8x Nob Bikers 545pts
Nob #1 Slugga/Choopa
Nob # 2 Big Choppa
Nob # 3 Big Choppa/Combi-Skorcha
Nob # 4 Waaugh Banner
Nob # 5 PK
Nob # 6 PK Skorcha
Nob # 7 Painboy
Nob # 8 PK Bosspole.
29 Gretchin w. 2x Runtherders 107pts
Elite
15x Lootas 225pts
15x Lootas 225pts

Heavy Support
2x BW w/ Deffrollas, Big Shoota (RPJ or Grot Riggers) 240pts

This leaves me with 270 pts. I would probably choose one of the following..

Option A.
3x Killa Kans KMB 165pts (heavy)
Fast Attack
3x Warbuggies w. TL Rokkits 105pts (fast)

Option B.
10x Burna Boyz in BW w. Deffrolla, Big shoota, Paint job OR riggers. (150 for Boys, 120 for Wagon).

I also like Lists 3 and 4, but I'm not sure I have enough Lootas, Nob Bikers or BattleWagons at this time. However, if I were properly motivated, I may find the time to throw something together for them!

I like that list, but the addition should be more boys in a third wagon...

Drop a couple lootas or something should do for the points, maybe a few grots, since I assume they go in reserve anyways and just score and objective late game right?

How often have you played with units of 15 Lootas?

I've grown to dislike full units (I use units of 5 now) because LOS is invariably blocked for a portion of them at what I want to shoot at.