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Played a game of surprise attack yesterday. My opponent (Nids) wanted to interpret the kill points rules as 1 point for each troop AND 1 point for each dedicated transport.
I was playing BA (4 dedicated transports, including a Landraider, wanted to interpret it as 1 kill point for each troop AND its' dedicated transport.
I quote the rule here:
" 3 KP for each HQ unit completely destroyed, 1 KP for each troops unit and dedicated transport unit completely destroyed, and 2 KP for each other unit that has been completely destroyed".
We played my interpretation after getting a third opinion and as a result I won. What do Dakka users think or do for this type of mission

I read it as 1 point for a troop and another for each transport. That's the price you pay for each transport you use.

Every tournament kill point mission I have played gives separate kill points for both the troop unit and the transport.

I just saw this:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/292419.page
The wording of the above rule is definitely open to either interpretation, and would be a lot clearer if written in such a way as to specifically state that dedicated transports are also 1 KP. I will have a look at GW FAQs.


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Big fat nothing there, surprise surprise.

Normally Dedicated Transports are counted as units and thus worth a kill point. So, I would say that dedicated transports are also a kill point as well as the troops. If they didn’t want the dedicated transport to count as a kill point, they would have just said “troops unit” and not “troops unit and dedicated transport unit.” This, one point for each troops unit and one point for each dedicated transport destroyed.

You robbed a dude of a win in my opinion.

The dude in question is my son so I can square that one. The third opinion was my wife, dudes mom, who was an English teacher! It would have been so much clearer if it said: 1 KP for each troop unit and 1 KP for each dedicated transport completely destroyed. Shame, as I have now lost three games in a row to his nids with my BA. : (

Mayhem - by your interpretation non-troop dedicated transports are worth no kill points. Did you consider that?

In the new BA codex all transports are dedicated transports, there are no other options like landraiders as heavy support.


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I just had another look at Battle missions and the KP rules are exactly the same as shown above for "Cut & run" (orks) but written slightly differently for the "Pre-emptive strike" (Eldar) mission which is:
"The Eldar score 3 KP for each HQ unit completely destroyed, 1 KP for each troop or dedicated transport unit they completely destroy, and 2 KP for each other type of unit.."
Note the use of OR rather than AND.


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(Mayhems Son Hijacking Account) Would have ended in a draw, But was put out by the claim that i had to kill a land raider crusader and 12 death company to claim 1 kill point. (the other interpretation lending the meaning that you have to kill BOTH the transport and its contents to get anything) Its also annoying to wipe out two tactical squads with genestealers and then have their rhinos run away so i cant get kill points for them

The other interpretation means you ONLY get a Kill POint if the unit has a dedicated transport - if you kill a troops unit without a dedicated transport you cannot fulfill the requirement of having killed a unit AND their dedicated transport, thereofre no kill point is given.

That is faintly rediculous, leading you to the conclusion that it meant is is 1 Kill point for a troops unit AND 1 kiill point for a dedicated transport.

The wording for the Pre-Emptive Strike sounds much better. But still, even if they meant it that you had to hunt down and kill BOTH the transport and the troops it was carrying to get a kill point I wouldn't play it like that even if it would mean a loss for me. It just sounds absurd.

Take it easy on your son. Just because he is better then you at the game doesn't mean that you should try to warp the rules in order for you to win. Just do what I do when my son beats me at something. I let him celebrate and have his fun, but then while he is off at school I rummage through his room for money or other valuables. That way I always win!

If I was just concerned about winning I would not have raised it on YMDC as a question. The reason I did bring it here is I am genuinely interested in what people think the answer is. We are both playing in a Battle Missions Tournament at our FLGS and I'm sure the issue will come up again. Anyway, the game mentioned in the OP is still on the table so I think I will go finish it, giving 1 KP each for troops AND/OR transports. Thanks for all your inputs.

Nosferatu makes an excellent point. I played this mission yesterday and initially read it as 1 KP for killing a troop along with its transport. However, this makes more sense and it means all dedicated transports are worth 1 KP, otherwise a LR taken as a DT for Terminators is worth nothing...

And it means a unit of troops who dont take a Transport are worth no kill points at all...which is silly.