Death or glory

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**Moncalcruiser**

So you have to stun, immobilise or destroy a vehicle, to avoid the death part and get the glory part. What happens if you stun a vehicle that has daemonic possession or something else that subsequently ignores stunned results, are you crushed beneath the tracks of a tank?

**Kurgash**

Yes. It ignores the stunned result already so pray for that 4+ damage roll.

**Moncalcruiser**

I was afraid of that, yeh thats hoping really hard lol, especially if you can only glance them

**Kurgash**

melta weapons, chain-fists and the like will be your best friend in this case

**Viper217**

Melta bombs are nice too, since you auto-hit, and then penetrating usually isn't the prob, you just need that 4+ roll on the damage chart. The 50/50 (at that point) chance to stop/kill the vehicle in exchange for risking a sergeant (or w/e has the bombs) is often worth it.

**Gwar!**

To reiterate what the others have said here, yes, if it ignores or downgrades stunned then you get smushed.

Death or Glory is really one of those situational things, though in my luck it either fails miserably or works too well (I explode it 6" and it kills the rest of my doods!)

And now for a tactics tip:
If you have to choose between a melta and a meltabomb, use the melta. Meltabombs are not AP1!

**Lorne**

Why do you auto hit with meltabombs in a DoG? Is it because the tank has not moved yet?

**Gwar!**

Lorne wrote:Why do you auto hit with meltabombs in a DoG? Is it because the tank has not moved yet?

It's because the DoG rules say so.

**Lorne**

Need too re-read them, too many years playing Nids. Could never risk that MC to a DoG.

**Jackal**

Funnily enough, ive recently been using TMC's for DoG lol.
Sure, ive lost a trygon to it (was a fun moment since i was 7-2 on KP's)

But fex's are a bit more reliable.

However, its still a dumb idea, dont do it lol.

**Grey Templar**

if a vehicle has extra armor or demonic posession(or spirit stones) its a 50% chance of the DoG model dieing.

once tankshocked a Carnifex with a rhino. it overpenetrated by some insane amount, and ripped the stormbolter off.

had a hive tyrant and a wraithlord do the exact same thing.

**JSK-Fox**

The funny thing about using a meltagun to penetrate is if you get a 2, you die.
:|

**Gwar!**

JSK-Fox wrote:The funny thing about using a meltagun to penetrate is if you get a 2, you die.
:|

True, but you also have a 5/6 chance of stopping it, rather than just 4/6

**Grey Templar**

actually a 1 doesn't always fail on armor penetration.

if the vehicle is AV10 then you would glance.

this is why Railguns and Str10 power fists Auto penetrate AV10 vehicles.

only rolls to wound of 1 auto fail.