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2023/05/20 18:20:37
Subject: Re:The Ongoing Mierce Miniatures Darklands New & Rumors Thread
You should be receiving the pledged for files in your MMF account. The way it works is that during or after the paid for month the creator will send you permissions for the files and they appear in your library under "files shared with me."
Most likely, your MMF account is not linked with your Patreon account which is why it's not automatic. I was having the same problem and I asked one of the creators I was subscribed to about it, and they mysteriously went away and "fixed it" which had a knock on effect of making it the process automatic for every other Patreon. I think they just emailed My Mini Factory customer support on my behalf. So you can ask Mierce or the MMF customer support if you want to be direct. Retrospectively, you own (for personal use) all the files you've pledged for on Patreon, so once they've linked your account, those 3 months will appear in your library.
2023/06/20 11:29:32
Subject: The Ongoing Mierce Miniatures Darklands New & Rumors Thread
Honestly this makes a lot of sense for a small company like them.
When Antonocities went under the big issue Jeb had was finding people that could make resin molds correctly as it was a rare skill set and most that could would go elsewhere as the hobby doesn't pay much.
If he had lasted long enough for the 6-8k printers to really get affordable that wouldn't have been an issue anymore.
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2023/06/21 10:50:21
Subject: The Ongoing Mierce Miniatures Darklands New & Rumors Thread
I've been in a worried place with Mierce since ... forever? Their latest "last chance at 50% off" routine that kept getting extended got me worried once again for their survival. I just wish they'd stop making damn good models because then I could back off. If they go purely 3D file I certainly wouldn't mind.
2023/06/24 02:56:39
Subject: Re:The Ongoing Mierce Miniatures Darklands New & Rumors Thread
Henry wrote: I've been in a worried place with Mierce since ... forever? Their latest "last chance at 50% off" routine that kept getting extended got me worried once again for their survival. I just wish they'd stop making damn good models because then I could back off. If they go purely 3D file I certainly wouldn't mind.
The sales seem like a replacement for a real marketing drive. Cut the sales; cut prices across the board. Then get their great sculpts in youtubers hands with unboxings/builds/painting videos. They are #1 in monstrous Infantry unit variety and sadly allot of people have not heard of Mierce.
2023/06/24 13:26:26
Subject: Re:The Ongoing Mierce Miniatures Darklands New & Rumors Thread
Henry wrote: I've been in a worried place with Mierce since ... forever? Their latest "last chance at 50% off" routine that kept getting extended got me worried once again for their survival. I just wish they'd stop making damn good models because then I could back off. If they go purely 3D file I certainly wouldn't mind.
The sales seem like a replacement for a real marketing drive. Cut the sales; cut prices across the board. Then get their great sculpts in youtubers hands with unboxings/builds/painting videos. They are #1 in monstrous Infantry unit variety and sadly allot of people have not heard of Mierce.
Its been going on years now, started with 30% off, then 40% and now 50% and every time it will be extended, i imagine most people just wait for these regular sales, as there is always one on for various items, they may have to wait a month or so for the rotation to come back to the items they are interested in, but i imagine most will wait for the savings, especially in this day and age with "cost of living crisis". Mierce might as well slash the prices 40-50% full time, if thats the prices they are actually selling reg minis at, there is no point in having the higher prices imo if virtually no one is buying them
Also has anyone printed off anything they have the actual resin mini of and if so how do the resin casts and 3d prints hold up against each other and could you post a picture please? i understand the printer resolution plays a big part and im guessing most are running 4k Photons or Elegoo printers, i hear people saying no matter how good printers are they are no match for traditional resin casts.
2023/06/24 13:35:30
Subject: Re:The Ongoing Mierce Miniatures Darklands New & Rumors Thread
Henry wrote: I've been in a worried place with Mierce since ... forever? Their latest "last chance at 50% off" routine that kept getting extended got me worried once again for their survival. I just wish they'd stop making damn good models because then I could back off. If they go purely 3D file I certainly wouldn't mind.
The sales seem like a replacement for a real marketing drive. Cut the sales; cut prices across the board. Then get their great sculpts in youtubers hands with unboxings/builds/painting videos. They are #1 in monstrous Infantry unit variety and sadly allot of people have not heard of Mierce.
Its been going on years now, started with 30% off, then 40% and now 50% and every time it will be extended, i imagine most people just wait for these regular sales, as there is always one on for various items, they may have to wait a month or so for the rotation to come back to the items they are interested in, but i imagine most will wait for the savings, especially in this day and age with "cost of living crisis". Mierce might as well slash the prices 40-50% full time, if thats the prices they are actually selling reg minis at, there is no point in having the higher prices imo if virtually no one is buying them
Also has anyone printed off anything they have the actual resin mini of and if so how do the resin casts and 3d prints hold up against each other and could you post a picture please? i understand the printer resolution plays a big part and im guessing most are running 4k Photons or Elegoo printers, i hear people saying no matter how good printers are they are no match for traditional resin casts.
I did miss them at Salute this year. I always got something something as impulse buy. Im also always worried about their path. Going full digital is a bit crappy IMO since I only get their stuff done by the likes of Allan Carrasco and others that are top class traditional sculptors sculpting for Mierce. Losing that is losing my interest.
2023/06/24 15:17:23
Subject: Re:The Ongoing Mierce Miniatures Darklands New & Rumors Thread
Henry wrote: I've been in a worried place with Mierce since ... forever? Their latest "last chance at 50% off" routine that kept getting extended got me worried once again for their survival. I just wish they'd stop making damn good models because then I could back off. If they go purely 3D file I certainly wouldn't mind.
The sales seem like a replacement for a real marketing drive. Cut the sales; cut prices across the board. Then get their great sculpts in youtubers hands with unboxings/builds/painting videos. They are #1 in monstrous Infantry unit variety and sadly allot of people have not heard of Mierce.
Its been going on years now, started with 30% off, then 40% and now 50% and every time it will be extended, i imagine most people just wait for these regular sales, as there is always one on for various items, they may have to wait a month or so for the rotation to come back to the items they are interested in, but i imagine most will wait for the savings, especially in this day and age with "cost of living crisis". Mierce might as well slash the prices 40-50% full time, if thats the prices they are actually selling reg minis at, there is no point in having the higher prices imo if virtually no one is buying them
Also has anyone printed off anything they have the actual resin mini of and if so how do the resin casts and 3d prints hold up against each other and could you post a picture please? i understand the printer resolution plays a big part and im guessing most are running 4k Photons or Elegoo printers, i hear people saying no matter how good printers are they are no match for traditional resin casts.
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I did miss them at Salute this year. I always got something something as impulse buy. Im also always worried about their path. Going full digital is a bit crappy IMO since I only get their stuff done by the likes of Allan Carrasco and others that are top class traditional sculptors sculpting for Mierce. Losing that is losing my interest.
Yeah their stall was always a highlight to look at and always busy, like you say, they do some of the best minis on the market and its great to see them in person.
I thought Mierce were scanning all their traditional sculpts for the STLs, so hopefully all those sculptors minis should be available in STL format, i guess if Mierce decides to go all digital sculpting and those guys are putty/GS only then, yeah it will suck if they are lost from the sculptor pool Mierce uses, it would also suck for those without a printer if Mierce went full digital with just selling STLs.
Ive sort of lost track with up to date news but. Have Mierce stopped using traditional sculptors completely?
Edit #1 I tried to "spoiler" the OG quote but failed lol Edit #2 Hopefully i figured it out!
Edit #3 Nope, didnt work, i give up on it.
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2023/06/24 16:38:07
Subject: The Ongoing Mierce Miniatures Darklands New & Rumors Thread
Also has anyone printed off anything they have the actual resin mini of and if so how do the resin casts and 3d prints hold up against each other and could you post a picture please? i understand the printer resolution plays a big part and im guessing most are running 4k Photons or Elegoo printers, i hear people saying no matter how good printers are they are no match for traditional resin casts.
I've printed a fair few bits. I have a few cast models from them as well. I honestly couldn't say that the cast ones are a better quality. The prints are phenomenal. I don't have the same model in cast and print, but I have a thread on the printed stuff that I've painted here.
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2023/06/25 14:26:19
Subject: Re:The Ongoing Mierce Miniatures Darklands New & Rumors Thread
Also has anyone printed off anything they have the actual resin mini of and if so how do the resin casts and 3d prints hold up against each other and could you post a picture please? i understand the printer resolution plays a big part and im guessing most are running 4k Photons or Elegoo printers, i hear people saying no matter how good printers are they are no match for traditional resin casts.
I've printed a fair few bits. I have a few cast models from them as well. I honestly couldn't say that the cast ones are a better quality. The prints are phenomenal. I don't have the same model in cast and print, but I have a thread on the printed stuff that I've painted here.
Cool, thanks il check the thread out
2023/07/03 19:36:41
Subject: Re:The Ongoing Mierce Miniatures Darklands New & Rumors Thread
2) Also, where's the right place to ask about specific miniatures from specific Kickstarter campaigns?
I'd love to have an update on:
Spoiler:
I think they were part of Savage Hordes III, or Savage Hordes III Part Deux...
And the reply from Sunday July 2:
Rob Lane wrote:They're slated for December of this year mate - watch out for that... and we're confident we'll meet that, too, thanks to a production change which will revolutionise everything we do.
Watch this space!
Cheers
Rob
I'm going to build a mostly Mallax based army for Darklands and somehow, somewhere I'll get a battle in with...someone!
Not sure what the new "production change" is - but I'm all for it if it speeds things up!
I've got even more Mallax to buy after all.
And, finally:
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2023/07/03 21:16:12
Subject: The Ongoing Mierce Miniatures Darklands New & Rumors Thread
thanks to a production change which will revolutionise everything we do
sounds a whole lot like there's going to be a lot more printed (rather than cast) models sold? Which would be nice, I'd really, really prefer digital Mallax - and so would my bank account
2023/07/03 21:34:57
Subject: The Ongoing Mierce Miniatures Darklands New & Rumors Thread
That's not the only benefit of producing miniatures in Grey Wulf resin! Here's just a few of the many advantages of this fantastic material:
High Quality: The quality of Grey Wulf is exceptional, as good as cast resin and far superior to metal
Strong: Grey Wulf is very strong and tough despite being light and will survive plenty of knocks, bashes and drops; being plastic, paint will not chip off like it does on metal, either
Flexible: Unlike some print resins Grey Wulf is not brittle, quite the opposite! It's very flexible and will remember its shape
Fewer Components: miniatures in Grey Wulf can be printed with overhangs, so they don't need to be in as many components as cast resin. This means there's far less fiddly assembly and far less gap filling. Some of the smaller miniatures will be produced in one piece, such as the wulfas
No Mould Lines: As there are no moulds when printing with Grey Wulf, there are no mould lines, slips or flash
Costs Less: It costs far less to produce miniatures in Grey Wulf, which means we can pass on those savings to you, our valued customers
Quick to Produce: Compared to making cast resin or metal miniatures, production with Grey Wulf will be much quicker. Previously, once the miniature was sculpted we had to cut into more components; prepare for print; print; clean up; mount for moulding; mould; cut the moulds; and finally cast (bearing in mind that after thirty or so resin casts each mould had to be re-moulded). Now, we simply have to cut the miniature into less components, prepare for print, print and clean up - and then send it off to you! The greatest benefit here is that we can produce new releases far quicker than in the old materials!
Environmentally Friendly: Grey Wulf will use less resin than casting and no rubber for moulding, which means we're using less resources
The only disadvantage of Grey Wulf is that we can't cast traditional miniatures in it... until we get a high quality 3d scanner... ;o)
Some Do's and Don'ts
Before we talk about future Grey Wulf production, we have a couple of do's and don'ts. Please make sure you assemble all Grey Wulf miniatures with superglue - not plastic glue! - and while there's no need to wash your miniatures before priming, if you're in that routine feel free to do so. You can heat up Grey Wulf and bend to shape, but we wouldn't recommend that you treat it like cast resin in that regard - Grey Wulf is a little more resilient than that and may end up becoming brittle.
The Future is Grey Wulf
Grey Wulf being so incredible made it easy for us to decide on producing all future releases in this superb material. That means we won't be producing anything new in cast resin or metal (unless it is a traditional sculpt), and all of our previous digital releases will eventually be made available in Grey Wulf. This will take time, however, so please be patient in that regard!
Cast resin and metal options will be removed
We will of course be lowering the prices of all of our future releases at some point over the next week or so, and removing metal options; once we have produced existing miniatures in Grey Wulf, their prices will change and metal options removed, too, and we'll make sure we send a mailshot out whenever we do so (we'll probably do it on a kindred-by-kindred basis). Traditional - i.e., - hand-sculpted - miniatures will remain in cast resin and metal, although we will be resculpting pretty much everything digitally - or scanning the monsters that are still amazing - at some point over the next few years.
What if I've already bought the future releases?
If you have already purchased any future releases in cast resin or metal, we'll happily refund what you paid for them to Moneyback (store credit) so you can spend that on the new versions. Just send us an e-mail to that effect! If we don't get any instructions from yourself, we'll simply send you the future releases in Grey Wulf resin.
How does this affect the miniatures from this project?
Broadly speaking, anything digitally sculpted will be in Grey Wulf resin; anything that's traditionally sculpted (i.e., by hand) will be in cast resin.
For this project, only the wælwulfas and Cearl are left to produce, so they will be in Grey Wulf resin.
The only real issue is the price of the new digital miniatures, but please bear in mind here that we don't yet know the exact costs of the print resin for larger miniatures. For smaller miniatures there is a huge economy of scale, but for larger ones there is not; so it may well be that the larger digital miniatures may be equal in cost to the cast resin miniatures when printed in Grey Wulf.
Bear in mind, too, that if you've purchased any of the above in the hosts or deals they'll be much cheaper than RRP in Grey Wulf anyway.
This would be the important part, I think:
What if I've already bought the future releases?
If you have already purchased any future releases in cast resin or metal, we'll happily refund what you paid for them to Moneyback (store credit) so you can spend that on the new versions. Just send us an e-mail to that effect! If we don't get any instructions from yourself, we'll simply send you the future releases in Grey Wulf resin.
It looks like if you do not ask for this to happen, you'll lose out on quite a bit (maybe?) as their system will not be automatically giving you credit for this, and you'll be getting "Grey Wulf" going forward either way, even though you *might* have paid more than what the new Grey Wulf pricing will be...maybe?
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2023/07/13 19:49:25
Subject: The Ongoing Mierce Miniatures Darklands New & Rumors Thread
I think they're underestimating the time it takes to properly clean and prep a supported part... unless they're just going to do the basics with a quick snip and leave the nub cleanup to the customer.
We Munch for Macragge! FOR THE EMPRUH! Cheesesticks and Humus!
2023/07/13 19:49:40
Subject: The Ongoing Mierce Miniatures Darklands New & Rumors Thread
Monkeysloth wrote: I'm sure if you email him Rob will clarify as that might just be they'll still make KS orders in metal or resin to fulfill those orders.
I see this as nothing but a positive for the line as mold making has to be their biggest bottleneck.
And stock holding. It's a big range for a small company to be able to keep a constant stock of, which ties up a lot of capital. I might be wrong, but I am under the impression that the casting isn't done in house. Moving to printing will give them control of production and mean that they don't need to keep anything other than repeat sellers in stock without creating long wait times, and will save them a small fortune.
Monkeysloth wrote: I'm sure if you email him Rob will clarify as that might just be they'll still make KS orders in metal or resin to fulfill those orders.
I see this as nothing but a positive for the line as mold making has to be their biggest bottleneck.
And stock holding. It's a big range for a small company to be able to keep a constant stock of, which ties up a lot of capital. I might be wrong, but I am under the impression that the casting isn't done in house. Moving to printing will give them control of production and mean that they don't need to keep anything other than repeat sellers in stock without creating long wait times, and will save them a small fortune.
They did all their casting in house as far as I know. Metals they use to use a 3rd party but I believe they finally got approval from the local government to set that up at their shop a few years ago.
2023/07/14 09:26:07
Subject: The Ongoing Mierce Miniatures Darklands New & Rumors Thread
They did all their casting in house as far as I know. Metals they use to use a 3rd party but I believe they finally got approval from the local government to set that up at their shop a few years ago.
Ah right okay. I must have inferred that in error.
They were loud about logistics when their metal casting was outsourced and had two or three little paragraphs at the bottom of KS updates when they in-housed it as I recall, so that's understandable. Honestly I'd forgotten they'd even brought it in house TBH.
2023/07/30 16:31:57
Subject: Re:The Ongoing Mierce Miniatures Darklands New & Rumors Thread
Just had an email from Mierce, 55% off everything, but only if you pay via Paypal.
I just read the small print, they ask that you pay them as friends and family "so that you pay the fees". This voids all of your protection as a buyer. Am I wrong to be a bit worried by this?
Why have Paypal as a payment option, then instruct you to pay using the friends and family option? At best it seems very amateurish, at worse...I don't know.
2023/07/30 19:54:55
Subject: Re:The Ongoing Mierce Miniatures Darklands New & Rumors Thread
Undead_Love-Machine wrote: Just had an email from Mierce, 55% off everything, but only if you pay via Paypal.
I just read the small print, they ask that you pay them as friends and family "so that you pay the fees". This voids all of your protection as a buyer. Am I wrong to be a bit worried by this?
Why have Paypal as a payment option, then instruct you to pay using the friends and family option? At best it seems very amateurish, at worse...I don't know.
Definitely seems shady, what next will they start asking for payment in crypto?
2023/07/30 20:16:27
Subject: The Ongoing Mierce Miniatures Darklands New & Rumors Thread
I think it's less shady vs Rob wanting the funds now vs waiting months for paypal to release them which is the other difference between the two payment options. They're probably wanting to raise money to switch completely over to 3d printing everything.
If you're not comfortable with it 100% don't buy anything for sure but there's been lots of times over the past 10 years that Mierce could have just walked away with people's money and haven't (and some people here thought they 100% were). Their pateron is doing decent right now and are shifting to a new production process so I see this more as amateurish as was mentioned as they're thinking "of course we'll deliver so why would anyone be concerned?" when in general it's always good to present the buyer with as much confidence as possible when buying something they'll get it.
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2023/07/31 10:45:21
Subject: The Ongoing Mierce Miniatures Darklands New & Rumors Thread
Monkeysloth wrote: They're probably wanting to raise money to switch completely over to 3d printing everything.
I'd agree with this. I think that all the latest promotions and current Kickstarter are all for raising money to buy more printers. I don't think that there is anything sinister behind it.
