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What rules specifically change the way the Tomb Kings will be working. How will these affect the tomb kings? In what ways can we leverage these strengths and shore up these weaknesses?

Almost willing to put money down that GW gives Tomb Kings a minimal cast value to their incantations. Also, they'll probably be allowed to miscast (well, Irresistible).

Shoot in 2 ranks.
40 archers, Khalida, her auto cast, goodbye to one enemy unit every turn.

Screaming skull catapault became alot more effective with no guess distance.

Chariots are going to really, really struggle vs any ranked units as front rank will always fight back.

Wow.. no more guess distances? That's disgusting.

Magic is going to be the most important lynch here. If chariots can still auto-guarantee flanks, then it's never going to matter. If they can't Tomb Kings are going to get nerfed hard.

Ragnar4 wrote:Wow.. no more guess distances? That's disgusting.

Magic is going to be the most important lynch here. If chariots can still auto-guarantee flanks, then it's never going to matter. If they can't Tomb Kings are going to get nerfed hard.

I'd expect a nerf as current rumours point to no more US Flank breaking(I think the rumour is 2 ranks minimum or something silly like that?).

Rumor is 2 ranks to negate ranks. Supposedly after combat you can get a free reform too (including rotation). This wouldn't be so bad, if it also wasn't supposedly that combats are a single player-turn in length.

I think it's generally considered that the "fight in one turn till one side is dead or breaks" is debunked. So I wouldn't worry about that one.

RZ

Chariots are rumored to have lost the AutoKill by S7 hits, so in that regard, they've become a bit more resilient. They may not be able to take head-on charges against ranked infantry anymore, but they can still dish out a lot of damage against their flanks/rears.

As W_G stated, TK shooting has become a lot more effective.

While Fear isn't quite as good as it was before, it seems that the checks will now be every round of combat, so there're more chances now that enemy units will hit you at WS1.

It will be interesting to see how the chariot units go.

Regular chariots from other armies will turn into combo charge add ons for regular units (or my favorite, 5 beastmen chariots into one of the ridiculous 10 man wide enemy units).

How units of chariots will fare will be interesting. They won't be doing mass damage due to their low number impact hits and low strengthand will take wounds easily thanks to front ranks survival.

T4, 5+ save, yes?

Flank charges are their best bets. Front, you're (barring a failed fear) being hit on 3's and wounded on 4's or 5's (depending on strength). You have +1 to your static resolution, but that's not much gained.

Of course, that's not much a change from the current edition where - barring a character-led chariot being thrust in there - they aren't much good at breaking fronts anyways (IMO).

The more and more I read about Tomb Kings the more I Think they are going to end up getting shelved by all but the most stalwart of players until the new book comes out.

It's not like they were great at what they do in the first place.

I have to seriously out-play most of my opponents in order to get the win. Their most effective mechanics are clearly based on the conventions of 7th and 6th ed... These new fear standards and rank breaking practices just slaughter every skill I've learned since day 1 of 6th ed.

I hate being punished for being able to out maneuver my opponents, with light, fast, paper tiger type units. Chariots rely on luck to win when they don't break ranks.

On the other hand, the skeleton heavy cav you're fond of are still rank-breakers. I'm seriously considering Tomb Kings for my next army- need some magic and maneuver after Dwarfs.

Interested to see what actually drops as rules out of all these rumors.

RZ

Red_Zeke wrote:On the other hand, the skeleton heavy cav you're fond of are still rank-breakers. I'm seriously considering Tomb Kings for my next army- need some magic and maneuver after Dwarfs.

Interested to see what actually drops as rules out of all these rumors.

RZ

Cavalry gets ranks at 4 wide I'm hearing too.. right?

I heard a rumour that Magic would be the first phase, and movement comes after. Don't Tomb Kings Move in the magic phase with certain spells?

The thing is, it gives them no extra mobility: Unlike Beastmen, their magic can still allow charges. Furthermore, I think that rumor has been discredited.

Ah I see, I don't play tomb kings nor do many around me so i am in the dark about how they work magic wise exactly

Ah I see, I don't play tomb kings nor do many around me so i am in the dark about how they work magic wise exactly