Worst Army Build Tourny

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**thedarksaint**

I was goofing around on army builder last night and I thought, "what is the worst build for an army?" So, I tried to create a 'Deff Wing at 1750. When finished, I knew it would get stomped, but it would be fun.

And then I thought to myself, "Wouldn't it be neat if you went to a tourney where you HAD to bring the worst possible force ever and play it?" Well, that would kind of suck if someone brought a good force and won the tourney.

So, what if you had to build the worst army ever, go to the tourney and then TRADE armies with your opponent and then try to beat your own army with their army?

Doubtless this has been done before, but it made me look at my Deff Wing list and I realized that if I took that to my Worst Army Ever tourney, it would be quite good and I wouldn’t want to face off against all those 2+ saves, looted wagons and powerklaws.

So, I remade the list that I wanted to see across from me, something I knew would be so horrible that I could defeat it with almost any army. The grot-bot army

Mad Dok Grostnik
Weirdboy or the IC upgrade (can’t remember name)

4X30 grots with cybork and 3 Runtherders with Grotprods

2 Looted Wagons with EVERY upgrade except Boomguns

2 zzap guns, I think)

This was close to 1750 points.

Now, can anyone build an army that would loose to mine?

Good luck!

**deffdakka**

hmmmm..went with a fluff list but i feel it shares the suck as the army will kill itself if you pop the Parasite and cannot win objective games period...lol

HQ

Parasite of morterx 160pts

Troops

6 ripper squads at 9 strong 1,350 pts
spine fist
AG
TS
tunnel swarm

Fast attack
Sky-Slasher swarms at 8 strong 224pts
spine fist
AG
TS

**Nitros14**

HQ: 1 Greater Daemon 100pts

Troops:

5 Chaos Space Marines with Aspiring Champion with Meltabombs and personal icon. 95pts

20 Summoned Lesser Daemons 260pts

20 Summoned Lesser Daemons 260pts

20 Summoned Lesser Daemons 260pts

20 Summoned Lesser Daemons 260pts

20 Summoned Lesser Daemons 260pts

20 Summoned Lesser Daemons 260pts

20 Summoned Lesser Daemons 260pts

20 Summoned Lesser Daemons 260pts

20 Summoned Lesser Daemons 260pts

17 Summoned Lesser Daemons 221pts

2497pts total.

**FoxPhoenix135**

I was going to say an all Conscript and RoughRider army with a Lord commissar, but that actually would be kinda cool.... That would be a lot of guardsmen.

**thedarksaint**

@FoxPhoenix13t You're running into the same problem I did. Units that suck in competitive games would rock hard in this tourney. I expect to see many ripper swarms and nurglins fighting my grots.

Suprisingly, marines would be a VERY bad choice for this tourney, simply because they are so Jack of All Trades that none of their units are truely god awful.

**kartofelkopf**

Hmm... I like this idea.

You'd need to require at least two scoring units per list, so as to prevent people from taking lists that had no chance of winning at all in objective games.

Yes... I think I'm going to write up some guidelines for this. I bet it'd be fun.

**Regwon**

Nitros14 wrote:HQ: 1 Greater Daemon 100pts

Troops:

5 Chaos Space Marines with Aspiring Champion with Meltabombs and personal icon. 95pts

20 Summoned Lesser Daemons 260pts

20 Summoned Lesser Daemons 260pts

20 Summoned Lesser Daemons 260pts

20 Summoned Lesser Daemons 260pts

20 Summoned Lesser Daemons 260pts

20 Summoned Lesser Daemons 260pts

20 Summoned Lesser Daemons 260pts

20 Summoned Lesser Daemons 260pts

20 Summoned Lesser Daemons 260pts

17 Summoned Lesser Daemons 221pts

2497pts total.

Generic Demons dont take up a FoC slot, so this army isnt legal. To make it legal you need to include a naked lord and another 5 CSM. No need to have any upgrades though, especially not icons. Lesser demons can be useful, but having no icons makes them completely useless.

**Crazy_Carnifex**

Yeah, so this idea would need to have a few rules to prevent completely disfunctional Builds.

1) Minimum 2 scoring units.
2) All units must be playable (In other words, you must include Icons of Chaos to play with sumoned Daemons, etc.)

**Honersstodnt**

marines would definitely win this contest.... just spam vanguard veterans on foot with dual thunder hammers.

so very expensive... yet so very crappy.

**wizard12**

A DKoK army list would probably be a bad choice if you used no artillary or tanks in it. Would be intesting though.

**Jokorey**

Pretty sure I win:

Tau Empire

Farsight
7x Bodyguards with Targeting Array's, Shield Generators, drone controllers, and 2x marker drones.

Shas'o commander, 3 bodyguards, built as above.

9 crisis suits, built as above.

2 teams of firewarriors with pulse carbines, or two teams of kroot, whichever you find to be worse.

21 suits that have 1 damaging shot total - they're going to have to go punch things at ws2/i2, 42 markerdrones, and 12-20 troops with 18-24 inch range.

**Dashofpepper**

You can do much worse.

Tau army led by an Ethereal or the Space Pope.
Troops full of firewarriors with carbines. Fast Attack full of Vespids.

That'll take you up to about 2k points, and when the ethereal gets sniped out, the whole army runs off the board.

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Jokorey wrote:Pretty sure I win:

Tau Empire

Farsight
7x Bodyguards with Targeting Array's, Shield Generators, drone controllers, and 2x marker drones.

Shas'o commander, 3 bodyguards, built as above.

9 crisis suits, built as above.

2 teams of firewarriors with pulse carbines, or two teams of kroot, whichever you find to be worse.

21 suits that have 1 damaging shot total - they're going to have to go punch things at ws2/i2, 42 markerdrones, and 12-20 troops with 18-24 inch range.

Also, read the small print; you're required to pull weapons from the armory.

**Jokorey**

Dashofpepper wrote:
Also, read the small print; you're required to pull weapons from the armory.

Can you give me a quote or page number please? Armory says that they take systems as dictated by their army list "in any combination", and army list explicitly says that they must select three weapons or support systems, and Army Builder files don't disallow it (which doesn't say a lot, except that if there is that rule, it didn't get coded in, to be fair.)

Also, holy run on sentence, Batman!

**Thor665**

We actually did a tourney just like this in my FLGS at the time. The rules included that units that couldn't/didn't deploy counted as surviving, and you were obligated to take at least one option from each FoC slot. (there were other rules as well but these were the big ones I recall).

First place was a Nids army (this was pre the newest dex) with massively tricked out gaunts to eat up points insomuch as he had barely any models on the table and they were still weak as sin. I remember lots of Rippers too.

I was second place with my DE army of every squad carries a WWP just in case and my very expensive HQs don't have any weapons. The big rough part was my Hellions were actually pretty decent.

Third place was either Tau or Orks, I sort of forget now. The Tau force involved weaponless XV suits so was somewhat similar in concept to what I was doing, and the Ork one was grot themed with lots of Cyber Grots running around the board (I easily smashed my DE with the might of Grotsnik and his Cyber Grot army).

**Melissia**

Inquisitor Lord as HQ, with no psychic powers and only support retinue, no land raider.

Repentia for an elites choice.

Footslogging =][=STs as troops.

Three squadrons of Penitent Engines.

**Thor665**

You have to be careful with stuff like Penitent Engines - it's quite possible for an opponent to build an army that is incapable of harming vehicles.

**thedarksaint**

The more I play around with army lists, the harder it is to build a total crap army. You run out of slots for the truly combat awful stuff and you soon have to start taking good stuff.

@Thor665, I'm suprised you didn't take Mandrakes as well.

**Xca|iber**

How about this:

HQ
Chaos Lord - 90

Troops
5x Chaos Marines - 75
5x Chaos Marines - 75

Fast Attack
3x Spawn - 120
3x Spawn - 120
3x Spawn - 120
3x Spawn - 120
3x Spawn - 120
3x Spawn - 120
3x Spawn - 120
3x Spawn - 120
3x Spawn - 120
3x Spawn - 120
3x Spawn - 120
3x Spawn - 120
1x Spawn - 40

Total: 1720

**Thor665**

thedarksaint wrote:@Thor665, I'm suprised you didn't take Mandrakes as well.

I did, two units worth if I recall correctly. I was debating a fair bit between them and taking a single large footslogging squad of Wyches (toughness 3 and armor save 6+). In retrospect I actually think the Wyches might have been the better plan. I could have burned a lot of points in a Succubus (WWP, et al) and the Wyches are very easy to kill if you shoot them. Since everything was footslogging and the Mandrakes actually do have good cover saves they actually turned out to be a bit more formidable then I had at first expected simply because they were hard to kill for VPs. The Wyches probably would have been easier to shoot up and get to fail morale.