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So, a friend of mine wants to play a 700pt game of 40k, with the caveat that we only have one obligatory troops choice. He will be
running SM, and I will be running orks. I know he wants to run his stern guard and land raider, and he’ll probably run a 6 man HQ
(Cheapest commander+ PP&CC, apoth, 4 SMs+PG) in a razorback and a 5 man scout squad+4 SR. Has far has the rest of his army I
have no idea. I was thinking of running the following.

HQ

Big Mek + SAG

105pts

Elites

15 Lootas

225pts

Troops

2X 12 Boyz + trukk + nob + PK

284pts

Fast

2xDeffkopta + rokkit

70pts

Total = 704pts

OR

HQ

Big Mek + SAG

105pts

Troops

2X 12 Boyz + trukk + nob + PK

284pts

Fast

3xDeffkopta + rokkit

135pts

2XDeffkopta

70pts

HEAVY

1xLooted Wagon + boomgun

105 pts

Total=699pts
Any suggestions would be great!

My advice: If you're going to play a game of 40k without following the basic rules (1 HQ, 2 troops) just so that he can exploit the primary ork weakness (AV14) by dropping a land raider (250 points) into his list, then he's a real douche. I would answer in kind with this list:

Big Mek with a KFF + 10 gretchin (and a runtherder) inside a Stompa. You're AV12 to his AV14, but you have a Lifta-Droppa to throw his land raider across the board.

I pretty much agree with Dash, your SM friend is comming off as a real jack ass. Everyone knows the only thing that really sticks it to the Orks, is a landraider, and hes wanting to change how to set the game up, JUST so he can squeeze in a LR? Thats a jerk off move in my book.

Take a BW with deff rolla, stick a bigmek kff and the rest with slugga boyz to fill the BW. Then fill your points out with whatever it is your going to take. Then just position yourself to ram the ever living pooh out of his LR. At the very least thatll show him not to be an asshat just to bring a LR

Awww man, harsh! Lol! We’ve been playing together for the last 9 years and he’s only beat me one time, so I don’t mind playing lopsided game from time to time, but this is going to be a beating without a really good list and a whole lot of luck on the dice. That’s why I posted my list.

You can be a jerk back...

9 kans with rokkits -450
Big mek, kff, hvy armor - 90
19 grots, runtherd - 67
2 buggies, t/l rokkits - 70
1 deffkopta, t/l rokkits, buzzsaw - 70

total 747

Run you kans at his LR - watch him run in fear. Yes you'll need either 4's or 6's to hit - but if you need 6's he is only shooting one wpn at you a turn from the LR.

Use the kopta and buggies to pop his razorback. You can also use the kopta to assault his scouts.

Attach the bigmek to the grots and run behind the kans (4+) save! If it gets too bad, go to ground. All you need from the KFF is one or two rounds of coverage for you kans, after that, you're in his face with AV11 and STR10 DCCWs!

I like the a-hole list, but I’ve only got 3 Kans (1 shoota, 1 rokkit, 1 scrocha). I do have a battle wagon w\deff roley goodness and a Big Mek w\KFF. How does this sound?
HQ

Big Mek w\kff

85pts

Troops

10 grots + 1 Herder

40pts

10 Boyz + truck + wreckin ball

110pts

Fast

3XDeffkopta + rokkits

135pts

3XDeffkopta + rokkits

135pts

2XDeffkopta + rokkits

90pts

Heavy

Battlewagon + deff rolla

110pts

Total=705