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I am looking for tips to take on an IG army with my BA that I seem to be having trouble with. If there are any good tactics that anyone could give me off the top of their heads I would much appreciate it. I'm looking for weak points in the IG army.

If they usually take lots of Infantry use baal preds with flamestorms and hvy bolters. If they run Tanks use LRs and Preds with LAS!

Or you could kill two bird with one stone by taking assult cannon baals which are descent at both anti-tank and anti-infantry.

Generally try to get into assult with stuff, I wouldn't take any expensive multi-wound charaters without EW

Finally, avoid exercutioners (you know, the one with the big plasma cannon thingy) because they'l;l tear you apart.

Outflanking baals with assault cannons and heavy flamer sponsons will do wonders for you.

Aside from that, focus hard on one thing: either go landraider heavy, rhino heavy, or jump heavy. don't deepstrike unless you're podding in.

One unit I've wondered about for fighting IG is a librarian with the Blood Lance and an honor guard with four meltas, in a pod. That really hurts IG.

You need to close, and you need to close fast. Luckily you're capable of that. Set up combi charges, but try to pop the chimeras to eat the squads in side first. If jump troops, hug cover but not at the expense of moving as fast as possible. If going second, try a refused flank to soften the alpha strike.

if you use dante and attach him to a sang guard and give the sang guard infernous pistols you could deep strike them right behind his armor with in three inches and light his armor up with the extra 2D6. because when dante deep strikes he doesnt deveate and he makes sang guard troop choices so thats one less troop choice you have to worry about right there.

Use your fast vehicles and smoke. first turn throw your dudes 18" up and pop smoke, this should put you within turn 2 charge range with most all of your guys. Also, make you have at plenty of priests in your army giving off fnp, that should keep a lot more guys standing.

Also, bring a unit of terminators, normal ones, with assault cannons. They are amazing at thinning out heavy weapon squads and popping the occasional tank, plus they may draw a lot of fire away from the rest of your army, you may want to put a priest with them as well.

Have you tried a furioso librarian yet? give him wings of sanguinius and he may be able to have a turn two charge as well.

All very good advice I will try to implement some of it in the next game i play on Sat. Thanks a million.

WATCH OUT FOR LEMAN RUSS EXECUTIONERS (can have up to five plasma cannon blasts and a lascannon shot)


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Oh and IG dont like close combat so get in there with the pods and jump paks

I'd take the modified Rhino rush. Fast Rhinos in front of (running) Jump Packers giving them cover.
Add Baal Predators and Vindicators for fire support.

Foeburner wrote:WATCH OUT FOR LEMAN RUSS EXECUTIONERS (can have up to five plasma cannon blasts and a lascannon shot)

I'm getting one of those sorry to ot your thred.

Foeburner wrote:WATCH OUT FOR LEMAN RUSS EXECUTIONERS (can have up to five plasma cannon blasts and a lascannon shot)

I don't care about your LRE's.
Rhinos are rather durable while your templates tend to scatter.
When BA starts the game, IG has just one unit of shooting.

Polonius wrote:Outflanking baals with assault cannons and heavy flamer sponsons will do wonders for you.

Aside from that, focus hard on one thing: either go landraider heavy, rhino heavy, or jump heavy. don't deepstrike unless you're podding in.

One unit I've wondered about for fighting IG is a librarian with the Blood Lance and an honor guard with four meltas, in a pod. That really hurts IG.

You need to close, and you need to close fast. Luckily you're capable of that. Set up combi charges, but try to pop the chimeras to eat the squads in side first. If jump troops, hug cover but not at the expense of moving as fast as possible. If going second, try a refused flank to soften the alpha strike.

I think that deepstriking can be very successful because of the Descent of Angels special rule. It is very easy to set up a 1/2 range melta gun deepstrike that is pretty reliable and not very risky because of this rule.

willydstyle wrote:

Polonius wrote:Outflanking baals with assault cannons and heavy flamer sponsons will do wonders for you.

Aside from that, focus hard on one thing: either go landraider heavy, rhino heavy, or jump heavy. don't deepstrike unless you're podding in.

One unit I've wondered about for fighting IG is a librarian with the Blood Lance and an honor guard with four meltas, in a pod. That really hurts IG.

You need to close, and you need to close fast. Luckily you're capable of that. Set up combi charges, but try to pop the chimeras to eat the squads in side first. If jump troops, hug cover but not at the expense of moving as fast as possible. If going second, try a refused flank to soften the alpha strike.

I think that deepstriking can be very successful because of the Descent of Angels special rule. It is very easy to set up a 1/2 range melta gun deepstrike that is pretty reliable and not very risky because of this rule.

Playing BA jump spam I found the best way is to aim right at the 6" line. Even the wost cast scenario won't cause a mishap with a 5 man squad, but they often scatter past the 6" mark. Being past 6" isn't the end of the world when in a AV10 side/rear arc.

BA just shouldn't worry IG. It's a fair fight, so you can beat them if you out play them.

Every troops choice is an assault squad with 2 melta guns.

When attacking AV10 BA FC means 3 STR5 attacks>1 STR6 krak grenade.

Just don't CC overkill infantry that pop out of Chimera. It's better to multi charge the infantry and other vehicles in an attempt to keep the infantry alive for 1 turn to protect the assault squad.

As an IG player I could probably be called on mutiny for this but..

Deeeep strike. Deepstrike melta put melta within 6 of the back of the leman russ and it 'melts' away. Troops? Don't worry about those, we use those to distract you from our tanks. Chimeras pop with autocannon shots, twin link when possible. Look for the sides. Jump pack, terminator you know how to do it now go do it.

watch out for vets, command squads, stormtroopers. They have bs 4 and on average can carry 3 meltas and a plasma pistol.

When you assault transports, try and block off all the exit points so that when you crack the shell you just kill the dudes inside without having to use another turn of fistfighting.

Slick wrote:When you assault transports, try and block off all the exit points so that when you crack the shell you just kill the dudes inside without having to use another turn of fistfighting.

The disembarking rules allow an emergency disembark when exits are covered.

tldr wrote:As an IG player I could probably be called on mutiny for this but..

Deeeep strike. Deepstrike melta put melta within 6 of the back of the leman russ and it 'melts' away. Troops? Don't worry about those, we use those to distract you from our tanks. Chimeras pop with autocannon shots, twin link when possible. Look for the sides. Jump pack, terminator you know how to do it now go do it.

watch out for vets, command squads, stormtroopers. They have bs 4 and on average can carry 3 meltas and a plasma pistol.

You sir need to be kealhualed by the imperial navy. Giving away good guard tactics.

If he is playing a wall of tanks Drop Pods are your best friend drop 3-4 down first turn knocking out key targets like russes and chimeras. Then the rest is all mopping it drop pods like that make guard players shake.

willydstyle wrote:

The disembarking rules allow an emergency disembark when exits are covered.

As i recall don't the disembark rules function like the fallback ones? if you cannot disembark due to enemy models being within one inch then all models are destroyed...

Here are some quick tips:

* With hte Descent of Angels special rule (1d6" scatter) it's easy to land your jump infantry into prime positions to fire your meltas on side & rear armor. Assault squads work best with 2x meltagun & infernus pistol. DoA also allows you to reroll for reserves which effectively neutralizes Master of the Fleet. I would take some Priests & join them with your assault squads for hte FNP.

* Meltabombs !! Take as many meltabombs as possible. If you are in a situation where you have to assault the treads the meltabombs work very well. Also if you happen to immobilize a tank with a meltabomb or krak grenade then power fists will automatically hit since these attacks occur at different steps of initiative. While the meltabomb is best, krak grenades also work very well.

* Landraiders. If you decide to play a ground force then landraiders will work well versus mech IG in general.

* HQs. As far as HQs go I think Dante is one of the best choices versus IG if you are going to field a lot of jump infantry.

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dbsamurai wrote:

willydstyle wrote:

The disembarking rules allow an emergency disembark when exits are covered.

As i recall don't the disembark rules function like the fallback ones? if you cannot disembark due to enemy models being within one inch then all models are destroyed...

Yes, but you have to completely surround a vehicle to accomplish this.

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joint wrote:I SMOKED BLUES IG DOG

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joint wrote:I SMOKED BLUES IG DOG

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joint wrote:I SMOKED BLUES IG DOG

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