What is the best Drop Pod list?

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**Durandal**

Wolves can put two plasma pistols and a plasma rifle in each Grey Hunter Squad, plus one too three power fists. They get Venerable dreads as an HQ, and bikers with powerweapons/fists. If you forgo terminators, you can have four dreads plus tooled up Hunter squads dropping in. Wolves still get their pods for free, so you don't lose points by going that route.

If your opponent tries to out shoot you at close range, you have 3 plasma weapons. If they assault, you have marines with true grit and counter attack, and easy access to power weapons.

**skyth**

Ummm...Wolves don't get pods for free...

Anyone thought of using Templars?

If using the YakFAQ, any casaulties in your own shooting phase from 'gets hot' causes a morale test (Which, if passed, causes the Templars to jump forward). Rapidfire with Plasma at close range the turn you drop, and if you lose a guy to overheat, then you jump into assault that turn. Might get pretty nasty.

Only problem is the Champion can't drop in.

**skyth**

Never mind...Only enemy shooting triggers the zeal.

**PapaNurgle**

I like the following:

Librarian Fear/Fury, Command squad 2 flamers, Vet sgt, apothecary, have faith in the emperor (6+ invul). pod

1 Termie squad, 2 asscans, pod

10 scouts, vet sgt, pod (yes, scouts)

3x10 tac marines, 2 melta guns, vet sgt pod

10 marines, 2 plasma guns, vet sgt pod

10 marines 2 flamers vet sgt pod

That's about 2k points. 8 pods. Couple of throwaway units, and a couple of units that do surprisingly well (Scouts).

I disagree with ed (and we've had that discussion before) but he and I have different styles of play - so if it works for him, more power to him.

I like lots of marines. It takes a lot of killing to get rid of all of 'em.

**WarsmithMorgoth**

Speaking of drop pods has anyone tried a chaos drop pod army using dreadclaw assualt pods, i would think it could be as good if not better than a marine equivalent list especially if you used Iron Warriors with multiple havoc squads in dreadclaws.

**Raider**

Provided you can charge the turn you land, this would be nice:

5 Havocs with 4 Meltaguns and furious charge + Champ with Plasmapistol, Dark Blade, strength, mutation and spikes. = 300 pts.

**WarsmithMorgoth**

Actually the rules for the dreadclaw have been changed, they are now identical to space marine drop pods.

But i did field 3 in a list with 3 havoc squads in them. They were kitted out with 4 plasma guns a champ with a bolter-melta and powerfist then the other four marines had ccw and bolt pistols. The squad had mark of undivided anf counterattack vet skill.

It worked quite well.

Basically you drop in, shoot the poo out of the enemy then hopefully survive the fire from the opponents turn and then when they assault you, you can counter attack back into them to get the most amount of attacks.

I have built 3 dreadclaws from scratch and am going to build at least 3 more so i can experiment with drop poding chaos armies.

**WarsmithMorgoth**

The whole idea of an all drop podding army is interesting tactically and it seems like a lot of people are doing it, especially at tourneys like adepticon, but ive always had reservations about how good it can be.

Taking a powerful marine shooty list just seems to me like a better idea though.

Drop pods have that element of randomness which can really hurt which is why ive never really fielded many deepstrikers in the past.

Adding drop pods seems to me to take away valuable points that could be put into more guns or more marines.

The only deepstriking list i would think would work exceptionally well every time would be a lysander list because you can coordinate the drop which ive always had a problem accomplishing in the past.

my 2 cents

**Darrian13**

@WarsmithDave, where can I find the new rules on the dreadclaw? I would love to field one if the rules actually allow it in a conventional RTT.

Darrian

**General Hobbs**

If your willing to play true codex marines, (no traits) then Tigerious becomes a very powerful option. (this is how mauleed played his pod list) Doubling the range of Fear is nothing to sneaze at, as you effectively cover a 4 foot area (basically your opponents whole army) in Ld tests. (it also gives you alot more freedom on what your other power will be) This does, however, limit the number of dreads, and tactical marine assault weapons you can take.

Tigerious power does not extend the radius of the Fear the Darkness power. His power doubles range. The radius of the power is not range, therefore, he still only projects it 12 inches, not 24.

**lord_sutekh**

Old debate; do it in the appropriate thread (i. e., not this one).

**General Hobbs**

Posted By lord_sutekh on 04/03/2007 6:32 PM
Old debate; do it in the appropriate thread (i. e., not this one).

It is appropriate when it touches on which Drop Pod list is the best.

**lord_sutekh**

No, that's a rules debate, one that has been hashed and rehashed to no end with no definitive resolution. Thus, not tactics; thus, not part of a 40K Tactics thread.

**ether dude**

Agree w/LS

**Mannahnin**

Lord Sutekh is correct. If you want to discuss Tigurius and FotD, make a new thread in YMTC. Be warned that you will not be covering any new ground since the last time it came up.

**coredump**

Hobbs,
It is appropriate to mention the rules since each interpretation will change which army list is better. But it is not the appropriate place to discuss/argue which interpretation is correct.

**General Hobbs**

Posted By coredump on 04/04/2007 7:35 AM
Hobbs,
It is appropriate to mention the rules since each interpretation will change which army list is better. But it is not the appropriate place to discuss/argue which interpretation is correct.

Which is what I did. Other people got into an uproar. I did not mention or state a case to support my position, which is what I would have done if I had wanted to discuss the rules. If the OP wants to start his own thread he can.

**ether dude**

Back on subject, I ran a vanilla termie list a while back (just as I got wind that DW were getting the nerf) and I got my butt handed to me. On a silver platter. In a friendly game against a dropping BA army. It's probable that I made a lot of mistakes, but the thing that is pushing me towards slaaneshi termies, is that powerfists are, quite possibly, the worst weapon in the game for expensive troops who rely on their armor saves. Long story short, one squad of 7 assault termies with a sanguinary high priest took 2 turns of fire and ripped through ~1000 points of termies.

In retrospect, I'm not sure what I should have done. On the one hand, back up and shoot made the most sense, but the mission was alpha take and hold (may it's called something different; the one where you grab a central objective) so to win, I had to get everyone onto that objective. Advice appreciated!

Cheers

**Ebon**

Well, if you think powerfists are "the worst weapon" for them, you can always turn them off and attack normally.

You say you played against a "dropping BA army" but "7 assault termies with a sanguinary high priest" won't fit in a pod. Did they walk across the board?

Two turns of shooting with a 1000 points of terminators (8 assault cannons) should kill that unit. But yeah, that unit is nasty enough you just have to back up and keep shooting them. You probably should have spaced your terminators farther apart as well to get even more shooting in.

**General Hobbs**

Posted By ether dude on 04/04/2007 2:58 PM
Back on subject, I ran a vanilla termie list a while back (just as I got wind that DW were getting the nerf) and I got my butt handed to me. On a silver platter. In a friendly game against a dropping BA army. It's probable that I made a lot of mistakes, but the thing that is pushing me towards slaaneshi termies, is that powerfists are, quite possibly, the worst weapon in the game for expensive troops who rely on their armor saves. Long story short, one squad of 7 assault termies with a sanguinary high priest took 2 turns of fire and ripped through ~1000 points of termies.

In retrospect, I'm not sure what I should have done. On the one hand, back up and shoot made the most sense, but the mission was alpha take and hold (may it's called something different; the one where you grab a central objective) so to win, I had to get everyone onto that objective. Advice appreciated!

Cheers

Thats why I run a Space Wolf Drop Pod list.

3 SW HQ's ( I take a WGBL, Wolf Lord and a RunePriest, but I think a wolf priest with healing balms would work nicely)

2 of the Squads have the following: 2 assault cannons. 4 power weapons, 1 chainfist., stormbolters, runic charms and for +1 attack when charged, wolf pelts.

the other squad has all combi plasma's.

If I get charged, I get to use my power weapons unless they have uber high initiative. With stormcaller, I would count as in cover, so I might put that unit in with fists.

I also run in a drop pod a unit of grey hunters and blood claws, and I use scouts to come in the back.

The army has been fun to play and I win alot, but the bad thing is you really need 1850-2000 points to run it and for some reason 1500 has become tournament standard.

**skyth**

I'm surprised there's no venerable dread in your list. The reroll for second turn would be invaluable in a drop list I would think.

**Magnusthe Red**

I have a podding nurgle army. an improved toughness and true grit for just 2 poits more than an ordianry marine is excellent. Obviously we cant compete with the Sm Acannon list *mutters* but this is a good option for someone wanting to take the PA route. Also our dread can be nigh on indestructable and have 7 attacks.

**Lowinor**

Posted By skyth on 04/05/2007 3:28 AM
I'm surprised there's no venerable dread in your list. The reroll for second turn would be invaluable in a drop list I would think.

Yeah, that's what I run; my friendlier list at 1500 is a termy squad, ven dread, 3 GH packs, 1 BC pack, and scouts. If I were tuning the list more, I'd bump the dread to an elite spot and add another termy squad in exchange for 2 of the GH packs.

**General Hobbs**

Posted By skyth on 04/05/2007 3:28 AM
I'm surprised there's no venerable dread in your list. The reroll for second turn would be invaluable in a drop list I would think.

The reroll would be awesome. But I hate "units" that are wiped out by a single lascannon hit.