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Duncan_Idaho wrote:Problem with Vallejo is the so-so quality of their pigmenatation. Most of the times you are lucky, but sometimes.....

As in consistency of the pigment?

It also seems to happen with GW's paints. I am extremely displeased with the quality of their metallic paints (like dwarf bronze, and whatever "gold" colours there are) because of very bad coverage, while on the "2nd edition" paint sets, the gold was easily applied over black.

The same for Blood Red, coverage on white is simply weak. I am enjoying quite a bad streak of paints, out of about 3 of each one I mentioned none of them gave the same coverage as the previous set.

brazen brass???? are they fraggin kidding me??? first my beloved beaten copper and not THIS?

midnight blue I can live without.

all Inks? great, now I have to find a new way to paint bones. oh wait, I had to do that anyway since BB becomes a foundation color. by the gods, why are they doing this? *slamsheadtothewall*

doesnt affect me much, i use 90 percent vallejo paint. as long as blood red, camo green and a few other colors stay, im fine.

As a proud owner of a few pots of Ral Partha colors, I know the sting of lost colors (nobody can have the last 1/4 pot of Paladin blue...). My approach has always been to take colors from many ranges, so I'm less impacted.

Seriously though, I love vallejo colors, but between inconsitent pigment, the "shake till your arm comes off" requirement, and the nozzles that get clogged on a whim... I'm getting a little annoyed. What are the cool kids using these days? Reaper masters? P3?

Unfortunately, midnight blue is the main color for my Chaos Space Marines and my Nids...Blah...

I use mostly Vallejo now, but I do think it's kind of wack that they are discontinuing so many paints. I remember being a bit disappointed when they discontinued Beaten Copper last time.

And any reason yet why they are replacing all the inks with washes?

Cause in the past they converted the washes into inks and they want another merry-go-round?

Fiery Orange?
Brazen Brass?!
BLEACHED BONE!?!
::insert incoherant ranting here::

The brass is a key color in my Necrons, and the bone for my Tyranids (is there a `nid army where it isn't?). I did just happen to pick up new pots of the orange and brass, since I'm getting back into the swing of things, and the last time I had opened my paints was over a year ago (not pretty) and am in the process of restocking. May have to make sure I get a pot of the bone too, and possibly another brass.

Destrado wrote:The same for Blood Red, coverage on white is simply weak. I am enjoying quite a bad streak of paints, out of about 3 of each one I mentioned none of them gave the same coverage as the previous set.

I have great luck putting Blood Red over white. The main scheme of my marines is black armor, blood red powerfist. I'll take the time the paint the first white, then paint it red, because it comes out so much nicer.

I've pretty much moved away from GW paints. I've been using Reaper Master Series paints and with a recent retailer opening up in Cincinnati I now have access to Vallejo Model Color and Coat d'arms paints as well.

Three words,

Valleyo model colours

I switched 3 years ago, the only things I use from GW are the black and white undercoats, boltgun metal and brown ink.

Best decision I've ever made........

I started switching to Vallejo, and then switched back to GW for all colours except metalics (Vallejo metallics work very well) as I couln't get used to the 'watery' consistency.

I am in Brisbane Waaagh, where can I get Vallejo here?

You can order it.

Tacobake wrote:

Why do they screw around with their paint line, anyway? It's like trying to hack Google.

You answered your own question. GW is becoming synonymous with the words "dense" and "greedy".

Some of the paints can be easily re created, but you’re going to have to buy 2 or more paints in some cases, which is probably exactly what GW is planning. Every since there re-launch of the “bitz” program it’s more then obvious GW is just gouging the ever-loving crap out of us. What’s worse is that people still defend them.

...I just know they're going from inks to washes again because washes are cheaper, so they can make more off an inferior product... I got a few extra pots last night just in case; atleast I'll be able to finish my current armies.

The problem with the paints though is that there are a plethora of substitutes. GW paints generally are in line, sufficient that I'm ok buying them to support the store. This is not the case with their terrain and "hobby tools." But they have to have the needed product. If they don't have it Vallejo, PP, Citadel, Testors, Tamiya do (beginning to see the problem?)

Jezrael wrote:I am so glad I switched to Vallejo a couple years ago. Nasty GW paints.

Don't you mean: "Nasty GW paintses, gollum, gollum."

I spoke to a Blueshirt (so take it for what its worth) and the paints will disappear on 9th June.

The whiole ink range is being replaced, however the new inks are matt rather than satin finish. According to tests he did during a full timers meeting at head office the new inks are better.

Dumb question... What's the difference between an ink and a wash anyways?

Just the name.

Was at my local GW last night buying x5 terracotta, x3 tanned flesh and x2 chestnut inks for my lizardmen before the line runs out and asked about the inks.

GW stores have a listing of exactly what paints are being phased out.

29 Feb is either the day they are stopped from being stocked in stores or they are not receiving any more from UK. This is the date for Australia.

I was told ink ranges are to be replaced with repackaged inks Not washes and will have a new mix so expect some variation at least (why I bought the ink).

So get buying the paints you need!

Aduro wrote:Dumb question... What's the difference between an ink and a wash anyways?

If it is anything like the old 2nd edition era paint sets, the washes have more of a standard satin style finish than the glossy ink finish that you get right now.

I have not used GW paints in years, I have found out that GW paints dry up to easy.