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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/01/31 16:58:23
Subject: The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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All I have to say is - Wow. Absolutely brilliant stuff. I do like the dryad a lot, but she looks almost too refined and much too well proportioned to fit in with any of GW's cartoonish sculpts. The old treeman, Kool Aid man reference aside, is still a fantastic looking model.
I always get wierd looks when I tell people that I think the new GW giant is a rubbish model. Sure you get lots of parts, but he doesn't have any personality, and his pear shaped body makes converting him hard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/01/31 17:07:46
Subject: The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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keezus wrote:I always get wierd looks when I tell people that I think the new GW giant is a rubbish model.
I say the same thing too and all the kiddies cry.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/01/31 17:29:48
Subject: The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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The new giant looks like Michael Berryman somewhat, who also made an appearance in "The Devil's Rejects".
They're both good work, though I would have suggested etching more wood grain into the Treeman's face for a more 'wood-bole' appearance. I really liked the previous Treeman, as it reminded me of the hill-billy treemen from " Something Positive".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/01/31 18:23:09
Subject: The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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Man! This is killing me.
I can't see ANY of the images from work. Where are you hosting them?
I'll have to check it out from home tonight, I guess.
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Black Fiend wrote: Okay all the ChapterHouse Nazis to the right!! All the GW apologists to the far left. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE !!!
The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective.
Greebynog wrote:Us brits have a sense of fair play and propriety that you colonial savages can only dream of.
Stelek wrote: I know you're afraid. I want you to be. Because you should be. I've got the humiliation wagon all set up for you to take a ride back to suck city.
Quote: LunaHound--- Why do people hate unpainted models? I mean is it lacking the realism to what we fantasize the plastic soldier men to be?
I just can't stand it when people have fun the wrong way. - Chongara
I do believe that the GW "moneysheep" is a dying breed, despite their bleats to the contrary. - AesSedai
You are a thief and a predator of the wargaming community, and i'll be damned if anyone says differently ever again on my watch in these forums. -MajorTom11 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/01/31 18:47:00
Subject: Re:The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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I like both of the new sculpts and both a real improvements on the originals. I regret not having an army that can use either of them.
In defense of the treewoman, I like that she looks like a tree spirit and not a big block of wood. All elves and their allies should have an elegance to them. I always felt in was strange that the treeman and metal dryads would look so clunky. The rest of the army doesn't look that way. I think she fits in nicely with the current plastic dryads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/01/31 19:02:13
Subject: Re:The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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So, I went to your site & managed to see the "teaser" images (the close ups used by their price on the main page). The other images are still unable to be seen from work, though.
Top Notch.
What I can see is downright incredible.
I see the look in the giant's eyes, as has been mentioned and the elegance of that tree-babe (LOL) is astounding.
Looking forward to seeing the rest of the images.
Eric
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Black Fiend wrote: Okay all the ChapterHouse Nazis to the right!! All the GW apologists to the far left. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE !!!
The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective.
Greebynog wrote:Us brits have a sense of fair play and propriety that you colonial savages can only dream of.
Stelek wrote: I know you're afraid. I want you to be. Because you should be. I've got the humiliation wagon all set up for you to take a ride back to suck city.
Quote: LunaHound--- Why do people hate unpainted models? I mean is it lacking the realism to what we fantasize the plastic soldier men to be?
I just can't stand it when people have fun the wrong way. - Chongara
I do believe that the GW "moneysheep" is a dying breed, despite their bleats to the contrary. - AesSedai
You are a thief and a predator of the wargaming community, and i'll be damned if anyone says differently ever again on my watch in these forums. -MajorTom11 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/01/31 19:57:31
Subject: Re:The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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I love the new sculpts. The new giant is freaking awesome, and the treewoman is very well done. I did like the old treeman, though. The old giant, not so much. And the preview pics of the two demons makes me sorely tempted to start up that Black Legion Space Marine army again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/01/31 20:13:13
Subject: The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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Most excellent. Make an Avatar of Faith type model so I have something to field in Apoc battles with my Sisters! I will buy two, one for the table, and one for my special happy place.
Really, it is fantastic work, and even if the treewoman looks more like a sylvan demigod than a treant, I don't find that to be much of a problem for me
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/01/31 20:54:51
Subject: The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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Using Inks and Washes
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Loved the tree model. I actually like the fact that its more human aspects are coming through. The blending of the face to the tree parts reminds me of the cool blank faces female robots are given or machines project. I think it would be an interesting project to paint. I will definitely consider purchase one.
The giant is nice but not subantially exciting enough for me to purchase unless I needed a giant. I think it is definitely better than the GW one, but maybe combining both would lead to what I would want.
Good luck, look forward to seeing more great designs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/01/31 21:01:38
Subject: The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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Using Inks and Washes
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Having just re-read the post, if it is $75, can some-one post a link (at work) because I am going to buy me one of those thar tree-women thingies.
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2014 will be the year of zero GW purchases. Kneadite instead of GS, no paints or models. 2014 will be the year I finally make the move to military models and away from miniature games. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/01/31 23:03:15
Subject: The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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The tree-woman is amazingly cool. Simply stunning and fairly inexpensive (compated to FW prices) to boot.
One question, how big is it relative to a man sized model or the GW treeman?
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My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings. Look on My works, Ye Mighty, and despair.
Chris Gohlinghorst wrote:Holy Space Marine on a Stick.
This conversation has even begun to boggle my internet-hardened mind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/01/31 23:09:01
Subject: The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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Phanobi
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My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings. Look on My works, Ye Mighty, and despair.
Chris Gohlinghorst wrote:Holy Space Marine on a Stick.
This conversation has even begun to boggle my internet-hardened mind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/01/31 23:18:33
Subject: Re:The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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I am so glad to hear that you are back in business. The new sculpts are amazing and I plan on ordering a tree-woman tonight. Great work.
I have to say- I would love to buy one of your old plague lord figures- the guy who had a poisoned blade, gas mask, and intestines spilling out. It was a cool mini and I never got a chance to pick one up when they were first available. Maybe it will be re-released?
EDIT: Just ordered my tree woman. Can't wait.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/01 00:26:08
Subject: The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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Madrak Ironhide
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Ozymandias, I think that other plain figure in the wip
shots are the Reaper 28mm sculpts for modelers. That's
what I'm going by.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/01 01:20:24
Subject: Re:The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Those little Reaper sculpting dolls are perfect little scale providers... and are great to sculpt over too!
Thanks a lot for your comments and critique. I am learning quite a lot from this thread. I never consider certain things while sculpting but really start to understand what people want when reading reviews. I often regret choices I made while sculpting but with only two miniatures in I have plenty of time to augment my approach with Ultraforge.
Today I gotta package up some minis and mail em out so I wont be able to finish those demons as I had hoped. Hopefully tomorrow or the next day they will be complete and sent to casting. I will get a final photograph of the greens before I send them of so I can post em.
A lot of people have been commenting that the Giant looks like the guy from the original The Hills Have Eyes. For me, the giant is a mixture of a caveman and a gorilla while being kinda mutated.
The main emotion I wanted to convey was "ugh, another three dozen men to slaughter. I would love to escape to the hills and live in peace but my love for the human ale and food keeps me fighting. Better to work for the humans then be hunted by them I suppose."
The giant is kinda sad and defeated, and is more of a circus sideshow attraction for the warlords that hire him. He doesn't have any real self respect and wonders what it is like for solitary giant roaming the wild. I was greatly inspired by the LOTR cave troll story, as he might normally be quite gentle until provoked.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/01 03:16:20
Subject: Re:The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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Sophia wrote:Those little Reaper sculpting dolls are perfect little scale providers... and are great to sculpt over too!
Thanks a lot for your comments and critique. I am learning quite a lot from this thread. I never consider certain things while sculpting but really start to understand what people want when reading reviews. I often regret choices I made while sculpting but with only two miniatures in I have plenty of time to augment my approach with Ultraforge.
Today I gotta package up some minis and mail em out so I wont be able to finish those demons as I had hoped. Hopefully tomorrow or the next day they will be complete and sent to casting. I will get a final photograph of the greens before I send them of so I can post em.
A lot of people have been commenting that the Giant looks like the guy from the original The Hills Have Eyes. For me, the giant is a mixture of a caveman and a gorilla while being kinda mutated.
The main emotion I wanted to convey was "ugh, another three dozen men to slaughter. I would love to escape to the hills and live in peace but my love for the human ale and food keeps me fighting. Better to work for the humans then be hunted by them I suppose."
The giant is kinda sad and defeated, and is more of a circus sideshow attraction for the warlords that hire him. He doesn't have any real self respect and wonders what it is like for solitary giant roaming the wild. I was greatly inspired by the LOTR cave troll story, as he might normally be quite gentle until provoked.
well now I want to just give him a hug....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/01 03:16:51
Subject: The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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Madrak Ironhide
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You can settle for me, grey death.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/01 03:17:39
Subject: The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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That is quite an idea... I like good ideas or as Colonel Marbel would say "This miniature got a lot of charakter."
this would be a great diorama two giants peacfully lying in the gras talking about which kind of food the clouds look like and a warband of ogers sneaking up on them.
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"Some people measure common sense with a ruler others with a potato."- Making Money Terry Pratchett
"what's with all the hate go paint something you lazy bastards" - NAVARRO
"You don't need pants for the victory dance." -BAWTRM
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/01 04:08:57
Subject: The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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malfred wrote:You can settle for me, grey death.
<3
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-Aaron
Call For Fire
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/01 04:42:45
Subject: Re:The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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OKay... so I see the pictures.
Hmmm.
Beautimous.
Loving the "Plague lord" or whatever. I may have to pick one of those up when it's available, depending on the size.
Whew. For a cheapskate like me, that's a lot of scratch.
YOu're truly gifted. I'll be watching your site closely.
Eric
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Black Fiend wrote: Okay all the ChapterHouse Nazis to the right!! All the GW apologists to the far left. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE !!!
The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective.
Greebynog wrote:Us brits have a sense of fair play and propriety that you colonial savages can only dream of.
Stelek wrote: I know you're afraid. I want you to be. Because you should be. I've got the humiliation wagon all set up for you to take a ride back to suck city.
Quote: LunaHound--- Why do people hate unpainted models? I mean is it lacking the realism to what we fantasize the plastic soldier men to be?
I just can't stand it when people have fun the wrong way. - Chongara
I do believe that the GW "moneysheep" is a dying breed, despite their bleats to the contrary. - AesSedai
You are a thief and a predator of the wargaming community, and i'll be damned if anyone says differently ever again on my watch in these forums. -MajorTom11 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/01 07:58:47
Subject: The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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Symbio Joe wrote:That is quite an idea... I like good ideas or as Colonel Marbel would say "This miniature got a lot of charakter."
this would be a great diorama two giants peacfully lying in the gras talking about which kind of food the clouds look like and a warband of ogers sneaking up on them.
Ogres would probably be the best Giant hunters since they can stand a little punishment themselves. They could then offer the giants as trade goods. Would probably explain the tattoos on the giant as they could serve as Ogre clan name-branding? "Buy a Pale Skull clan Giant! Dey da best!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/01 10:59:54
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Gotta say great stuff. I loved your earlier work but this is leaps and bounds ahead.
Don't let Dakkites make you cry, we don't mean any harm, it's just our nature, we're like lions, or Galactus.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/01 13:48:16
Subject: Re:The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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Great, all of them! I particulary like the new giant, there's just something brutal about that head. Deffinatly some of the most characterful models I've seen in a god many years! Well done!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/01 15:45:34
Subject: The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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Yellin' Yoof
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OH damn these are nice figures! I dont think I've ever seen anything as well executed.
The stomach on the giant really grabbed me, as it's exactly how someone's stomach bunches up after they gain and lose weight quickly.
I think Dryad Queen might be more fitting for the Treewoman though, more calculating than bloodthirsty looking, and I love the stump like protrusions on the legs, makes it look like she "trimmed" herself to move around easier.
I wish the citadel design team had half the vision and talent evident in these sculpts, kudos!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/01 16:03:28
Subject: The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver
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Love the new giant. Kinda reminded me of the "Bad-Guy" in I am Legend (please take no "cool aid-esque" offense. It works perfectly as an angry behemoth).
The Treewoman is beautiful but perhaps a little too human. GW's Dryads are a mix of tree and obvious humanoid form, which I think works better. They don't resemble humans, just the way humans move etc.
I would still but it just for how awesome it looks though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/01 16:11:26
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Fixture of Dakka
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Any idea what sorts of projects you have coming up? I might buy a tree woman just to paint and have fun with, but I have way too much to paint as it is. Any plans that might make a loyal servant of the Emperor start salivating and rubbing his debit card in lascivious anticipation?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/01 16:24:46
Subject: Re:The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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Sophia: Awesome work! I like all of the sculpts (including the old ones.) Well done.
The giant's look is reminiscent of this fellow:
Michael Berryman
~Eric
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/01 17:17:25
Subject: The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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yakface wrote:
Now, if you'd only consider making something that fits into the realm of the 41st millenium that isn't demonic. . .maybe a giant Orkish brute, perhaps on a bike?
Seconded. I'd love to see your representations of anything from 40k, be it Ork, marine, necron, eldar, inquisitor, tau or whatever. There are many models that loads of people like, but no ready models for them, like the warboss on a bike, or a seer council on jetbikes that I'm sure would sell well and look awesome should you decide to sculpt them.
Personally I'd love to see alternate sculpts of the necron C'tans as well as the pariahs, but I assume those pieces are a bit small to consider putting too much effort into.
As for your current sculpts, I completely love the new giant.
My only complaint is that his barrel-knee "armor" looks a bit too much like a "fantasy-version" of the knee protectors used in airsoft or skateboarding, but I guess that has a charm of its own.
As for the treewoman, I have to agree that she doesn't strike me as a "I'm gonna rip you to pieces" type of monster, but I guess that also has something to do with her abnormally large chest...
All in all a great model that I'd most definately purchase if I was into WFB.
As for the WIP models, they are looking great! Keep it up!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/01 18:05:57
Subject: Re:The old and the new. Ultraforge resculpts.
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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@Apone i said the same thing when i saw the giant ,it's out of these world!!! and @Sophia, i mean the modeling goddess if the avatar is right  great work looking forward to see more of your sculpts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/02 01:20:18
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Careful in calling for Ultraforge to do GW-esque models.
IIRC GW had issues with them for using some GW imagery in their early models.
Whether or not GW had a legitimate case is unfortunately beside the point since few people have the money to go to court over it.
So best they make their own things.
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