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daemon princes can't be 2+, T6 anymore.

My Slaanesh lord can't be T4[5] on foot anymore, nor can he have a 2+ save if on a bike or using a jump pack or riding a steed.

And the real kicker.

I can't ignore wounds taken in cc with combat drugs anymore, practically the most survival-aiding ability in the whole codex since it worked on power and phase weapons as long as they didn't cause instant death

One of the best choices in my opinion, is a Lord with the Blissgiver. Just have him run around and pop off characters in cc.

Monstrous creatures get + attack from having a close combat weapon

@Spellbound:
Daemon Princes CAN be Toughness 6.
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I love my 'Spartan' Princes, wings and that's it.
Best distraction ever.
Shoot it, and you are not shooting at something else in my army.
Not shoot it and let it cause trouble.

DP's naked can do decent enough damage, and if you don't expect too much out of them, they shine.

They offer the army target saturation.

@Billie_Joe:
Really? Best?
I think the blissgiver is on the low to end end on the scale of competitiveness of daemon weapons.

Most things you WANT to instant death are immune to it. Most things with multiple wounds have higher toughness where str 4 sucks.

And all you get to do is kill mid to lower level power characters that a fist would do the same at a cheaper cost.

/shrug, It's the last daemon weapon I would go for...I'd rather go for a lash sorc instead, and I hate having lash in my lists.

@frogii_the_blue_horror:

What about the CCW? The MC does not have TWO CCW so he's stuck at 4/5 attacks (DP/GD respectively), the only way to change that is to get Mark of Khorne on the DP, but the economical aspect is questionable.

My 7 Cents.

frogii_the_blue_horror wrote:Monstrous creatures get + attack from having a close combat weapon

What??? No. A Demon Prince only has a single CC weapon.

THREADROMANCY!

Spellbound wrote:daemon princes can't be 2+, T6 anymore.

Sanctjud wrote:@Spellbound:
Daemon Princes CAN be Toughness 6.

Notice the difference. You can't be 2+ AND T6 anymore, was my lament.

Nor can you be T6 with ANYTHING but nurgle. So if you have a Slaanesh or Khorne themed force, you have to break fluff in order to be T6.