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i dunno. to kill things with more armour? and why not then just give him Quetzel and an Enchanted Shield to give him supa' armour save with the Great Weapon? there are a lot of combinations to choose from! i could just drop him all together, add another unit of Skinks and give the first ScarVet the Scimitar of the Sun Resplendent...

but here:
ScarVet - 121 pts
- L. Armour +2 pts
- Great Weapon +4 pts
- BlSp - Quetzel +15 pts
- Bane Head +15 pts

new total with this: 3003 pts

you cannot use a shield and a great weapon at the same time, therefore you cannot do that combo so take just the great weapon with the venom of the firefly frog, then spawning of quetzl and sotek

a scar vet should be set up like this

-scar vet (mounted)
w/ spawning of itzl and sotek/quetzl, shield, light armor, sword of might, cold one

-scar vet (on foot)
w/ spawning of quetzl and sotek, light armor, great weapon, venom of the firefly frog

-scar vet (BSB mounted)
w/ battle standard, spawning of quetzl and itzl, biting blade, light armor, aura of quetzl, cold one

-scar vet (BSB on foot)
w/ battle standard, spawning of sotek and quetzl, biting blade, light armor, aura of quetzl


one of these configurations are best for a scar

well here is another option that i came up with for a more attacky 3000 pts, over the Slann magics...

remove the Slann, both ScarVets and the Temple Gaurd
and add:

OldBlood - 493 pts
- L. Armour +3 pts
- BlSp Itzl, Quetzel and Tlazcotl +40 pts
- Carnosaur +210 pts
- Scimitar of the Sun Resplendent +50 pts
- Maiming Shield +30 pts
- Venom of the FireFly Frog +15 pts

ScarVet - 240 pts
- BlSp Quetzel and Sotek +35 pts
- Charm of the Jaguar Warrior +20 pts
- BSB +25 pts
- Totem of Prophecy +75 pts

Skink Priest - 140 pts
- Lvl. Two +35 pts
- Dispel Scroll +25 pts
- Bane Head +15 pts

24 Saurus Warriors - 306 pts
- Standard +12 pts
- Musician +6 pts

10 Skinks - 60 pts

10 Skinks - 60 pts

that takes it to 3000 pts even. i think that it looks like a pretty good sub...

Venom of the Fire Fly Frog can't be combined with magical weapons.

the characters mounted on cold ones are probably better than on foot, and i personally don't like the carnosaur oldblood, but what you have looks good to me.

the bane head is ok but i think you could do without it

fixed that. and thank you for all your help. my armies are looking pretty nasty now. ill reorganize my models and try a game as soon as i can and we'll see how it goes. im suer it'll be even better than before.

i bet it will. and i just thought i might say that the slaan, if you ever want to bring him back into the list would be a fine addition and you could leave him exactly how you set him up on the first page.

yeah. i plan on using the Slann, i just really like the Carnosaur model and figured i should come up with some way to work it in. it would make the army more focused on brute force, which is always fun to do sometimes!

also, what's the opinion on a Scared Host army? they seem like they could be really good. and i plan on collecting Lizardmen model for as long as they make the damn things, so would a HUGE Sacred Host be good? it seems like stating even at 5000 pts it could be really good. and then you could even put in a character like Lord Kroak! it seems like a good idea to me... what do you think?

the sacred host is really hard to work with as the main block units you'll end up using are skinks, which at T2, almost no armor save will be disastrous. i'd stick to the man normal list and skip all the red host crap

yeah but if you use Quetzel you can give the Skinks Scaly Skin 6+ for five points. yeah, its not that great but it something right? i think maybe it a huge army, like 10,000 points it could work. esp. a Qutezel, useing Saurus with a 4+ save would be pretty nice, and if you have an army based around that it would be pretty kool. slow as hell and kinda dumb but i think that a giant friendly game like taht could be kool.
and Red Host i think was just made to make a Sotek Sacred Host more appealing, that's all it really is. it just has some different rules, and no Slann. im sure that it could work in some capacity, but not as a serious thing tho... which is too bad.

the red host is mostly to get the darn engine of the gods than anything else. yes it could be fun, but also very disastrous.

i am totally okay with playing Red Host just for the Engine of the Gods, its bitchin'! and its nice to see some sort of other artillery than the Salamanders!

yea i'm thinking in the new lizardman book (begining of 2009) that they will add the engine of the gods

i hope so. taht would be kool. also, how did you find out there was a new book comming out and where can i get some info on what might be in it?

'm not sure where to find the info but it came from a group of people who have always givin me reliable info and nothing that is merely hearsay, they tend to use more info backed up by GW reps and the like