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MarvinGayeIsMyDaddy wrote:$20 Termies, $15 Dreadnoughts, $13 Tactical Squads are all still great deals.

...and for that combined cost, you can buy an entire AoBR boxed set from him and sell off the stuff you don't want/need.


Eric

Tons of people will buy the MRB at 20 bucks. Some fail to realize that just because you would go and buy the box set and then sell/trade what you dont want off, doesnt mean everyone is the same way. There will be a lot of people that compare 20 to 50 and jump on it. Neal knows that, which is why it isnt 10 or 15. An older guy with a full time job and two kids who plays Nids cares nothing for the rest of the stuff in the box. And to be honest I think that is the average type of person that shops at the warstore. Its fast, but not make you googlyeyed cheap, however they have EVERYTHING you would want. The rulebook is just a click when you are buying other stuff.

Also as above tons will buy it just because they are surfing the warstore with a few bucks to blow in their shopping cart and they will find it.

The price will stay as it is and Neal will sell a lot.

Kesher wrote:Hellfury if it makes you feel any better I am 100% sure that the prices will change once the box set is released and we can better gauge the demand. Bits prices are pretty much demand driven.

Anyways overall I'm sorry if you dont agree with the prices, no one is forcing you to buy anything.

Wow, looks like I opened up an old wound.

Yes Kesher, it is quite obvious that no one is forcing anyone to buy anything. I never implied that, I was giving an opinion regarding what i thought was fair. I even said so much in my original post in this thread which you have seemed to miss. Prices rise and fall according to demand. This basic premise has long been understood.

Alpharius wrote:I think everyone here understands that no one is FORCING anyone to do anything.

I think the surprise was more along the lines of "I'm not sure that (X) will sell at that price" than any sort of draconian gun point hard sell...

And that pretty much sums it up.

$20 for the mini rulebook is just simply too much. $10 or less is equitable. You only need one rulebook, but you do need a bunch more of those models.

Hence a huge surplus in rulebooks, resulting in a deeper discount on those rulebooks.

I do hope he does make a profit, but there is a difference between profit and blatant price gouging.

Hellfury, just for future reference, I think people would have been less taken aback by what you said if you had substituted "I" for "you" in that first paragraph.
Also, I would have avoided accusations of "blatant price gouging" if my point were merely "Wow, I am surprised the prices are that high."

Pip pip, cheerio and all that!

For the price I think it's still going to be better to buy the boxes, regardless of what you need from it. The community here, and other individual communities will always have people willing to trade for things from the box that you don't want. I can see the Kopta's alone fetching some nice stuff in trade, if GW sticks to keeping them a AoBR exclusive.

MagickalMemories wrote:

MarvinGayeIsMyDaddy wrote:$20 Termies, $15 Dreadnoughts, $13 Tactical Squads are all still great deals.

...and for that combined cost, you can buy an entire AoBR boxed set from him and sell off the stuff you don't want/need.


Eric

Right, but that would require me taking the time to sell the stuff I don't need. What if I want to start a cheapo Deathwing army? Should I buy 5 box sets and sell the components or just go out and spend $100 for 25 terminators? Call it a tax on the lazy.

MarvinGayeIsMyDaddy wrote:

MagickalMemories wrote:

MarvinGayeIsMyDaddy wrote:$20 Termies, $15 Dreadnoughts, $13 Tactical Squads are all still great deals.

...and for that combined cost, you can buy an entire AoBR boxed set from him and sell off the stuff you don't want/need.


Eric

Right, but that would require me taking the time to sell the stuff I don't need. What if I want to start a cheapo Deathwing army? Should I buy 5 box sets and sell the components or just go out and spend $100 for 25 terminators? Call it a tax on the lazy.

Dont worry about it! The things you dont want or need or are to lazy to sell send it to me... in small boxes please because I want to go under wife's radar

MarvinGayeIsMyDaddy wrote:

MagickalMemories wrote:

MarvinGayeIsMyDaddy wrote:$20 Termies, $15 Dreadnoughts, $13 Tactical Squads are all still great deals.

...and for that combined cost, you can buy an entire AoBR boxed set from him and sell off the stuff you don't want/need.


Eric

Right, but that would require me taking the time to sell the stuff I don't need. What if I want to start a cheapo Deathwing army? Should I buy 5 box sets and sell the components or just go out and spend $100 for 25 terminators? Call it a tax on the lazy.

Well, to each his own.
Honestly, *I* would because, by the time I was done, I'd probably have made back MORE than the $130 difference, thus making them even cheaper.
Should YOU do it? Eh. That's for you to decide. Not if you don't want to.

"...tax on the lazy." LOL I like that.

That being said, I was referring specifically to the 3 listed items combined. If you were buying ALL 3 of those items then you'd be nuts not to, as you're paying as much for them as you would a whole box. If nothing else, Orks make good calualties for bases and terrain.

--Or, you could just GIVE them to a friend who you want to get started in a game... Or to someone who's trying to start an Ork army soon... Like me... Need my address? LOL


Eric

MagickalMemories wrote:--Or, you could just GIVE them to a friend who you want to get started in a game... Or to someone who's trying to start an Ork army soon... Like me... Need my address? LOL

I use the box from 2nd Ed to hold all the minis I doubt I will ever use for a similar purpose. Some day I might find some one that actually wants 'nids and/or Orks.

There are plenty of other bit sellers out there besides BWB, I am sure at least one of them will undercut Neal's prices.

Wehrkind wrote:

$20 for the mini rulebook is just simply too much. $10 or less is equitable. You only need one rulebook, but you do need a bunch more of those models.

Hence a huge surplus in rulebooks, resulting in a deeper discount on those rulebooks.

I do hope he does make a profit, but there is a difference between profit and blatant price gouging.

Hellfury, just for future reference, I think people would have been less taken aback by what you said if you had substituted "I" for "you" in that first paragraph.

"You" unfortunately seems to presumesthat you (Hellfury) know what we (everyone else) want. In other words, it is not saying "I only need one rule book, and I rather suspect that is the case for most people." and instead implies "You only want one rule book, no matter what you or anyone else thinks." What that does is put people in the position of being told they are wrong if they think "Well, two might be nice" as opposed to merely having a different opinion.

It is kind of silly, I know; with a bit of thoght one can see you don't exactly mean all that. However, what you say is being clouded by how you say it. I have learned the hard way that in business and relationships that such things are very important, even though I wish they were less so. I certainly could use less kindergarten drama in the work place!


A little more on topic too, as has been stated, I think, the premise that everyone needs the miniatures more than they need the book is false. Not everyone needs marines or orks, or both, and not everyone needs the tiny rule book, but it would seem that there are plenty of players who do not want orks or marines and do want a mini rule book, however.
Also, the fact that that most people have more minis than rule books is not as useful a ratio as one might think. It is not a one to one comparison, or even a 25 to one comparison most of the time. For example, 500 points of my girls is something like 32 models, maybe 26 or so if I max tanks. So 25 models say to need one rule book. Other armies are different, but one still ends in the same place that even though one needs more models than books on a 1::1 basis, you still need one book for a player, who may or may not need the models.

So maybe the price makes sense, at least for now when people are more interested in saving cash off the rule book without going through the effort of selling sprues later, and later if the sale of the sprues at TWS or where ever leaves a pile of books lying around they will drop in price for the bargain chasers. There is always eBay where the folks don't need to make a living doing this, or provide books at a certain price whenever someone wants one to provide a lower price at the cost of more questionable availability.