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@JC & Nurglitch, I think there needs to be a rule about having fun on Dakka, because you're both breaking that rule big time.

Sorry, JohnHwangDD forbid that we discuss rules in the rules forum.

OK, then 40k needs a rule:

Tool - If you are being a tool at the table, your opponent may pound any of your orifices with any of their appendages until you stop being a tool.

JohnHwangDD:

I don't think 40k is your game. I think you want a bathhouse or perhaps a dungeon where you can pound all the orifice you want.

40k is about sitting down with a friend to play a game of toy soldiers, and if anyone is acting like "a tool" at the game table, then you're doing it wrong.

And that is why I wouldn't be playing in the OP's group. I prefer tool-free gaming.

All these replies are unnecessary. It's like the theory of evolution: certain traits are selected against, and individuals bearing those traits will not pass them on, thus removing themselves from the gene pool.

In the evolutionary "culture" of the 40k world, someone like the OP is selecting against himself. There is no reason to tell him this is not possible on this threat, nor to berate him, because by letting him continue to play this way, he will guarantee he no longer has any opponents and thus is no longer a part of the gaming group. He can't even pass on his gaming "genes" because I'm sure anyone he got into the game would promptly quit after he stomped them into the ground with this kind of crap, OR alternatively if he did pass on the "genes" and they just learned to play like him, they would find themselves in the same situation whenever they tried to play someone else.

And that is my over-complex "shut up, scrub" directed at the OP who is, in fact, a 'tard.

For those who are interested (which is absolutely nobody probably) the OP here has a long standing fued with a poster on another board regarding how closely you follow RAW. Basically the other poster was arguing that (in 4E rules) if you hold a bolter you can't shoot with a pistol and assault. At the time, there were a plethora of outright stupid examples of RAW that could be thrown around (EG shoot a lascannon twice within 12" because you're holding a pistol).

So he has posted this thread here not because he thinks it is reasonable or because he would play that way (he falls on the side of "don't allways follow RAW), but becuase he thinks it's a good example of why you shouldn't adhere to RAW. In a sort of "By RAW, I can teleport down on my opponent's beacons.." "Oh yeah, well by RAW, bloodcrushers can assault on the turn they land, so RAW is stupid, so you're wrong" way. In other words, using it as an excuse to ignore rules he doesn't like.

The post falls down for two reasons:

1. There is no RAW reading to support this ridiculous interpretation.

2. He's posting the thread to a board where the posters have no context of why he's doing it. Except me and maybe Insaniak if he read that thread.


And now here I am, posting with a single digit post count. Started reading Dakka again after every thread I posted to on WargamerAU got responded to with a snark telling me I'm the antichrist for wanting to use my Dark Angels with the Vanilla marine codex. (even if I didn't mention DA in my post, eg "Hey, what's the cheapest way to source Combi-Flamers for my vet sarges?" "Dark Angels can't use combi-flamers on their vet sarges!" - this is a thread for whinging about politics on another board so I thought I'd join in).

And then I see an out of control now locked thread from there infecting this board. Maybe this thread can be locked now, and the madness stopped.

GW just needs to be FASTER about its FAQs. Christ I think it would actually be worth it to pay one guy to peruse forums, gather info and questions from people, and have a - heck DAILY - modified FAQ board that he upkeeps to deal with these things.

In apocalypse games I wouldn't mind "chaos daemons" using icons from "chaos space marines" in order to avoid scattering. Makes sense from a fluff standpoint - they still couldn't assault unless they were lesser/greater daemons.

Using the opponent's Locator Beacons somewhat makes sense - you fire out a strong signal, it's likely the enemy could home in on it. That sort of thing happens in Sci-Fi fluff all the time. However it seems like it's a somewhat dirty thing to do in a friendly game and as such needs someone, anyone with "official" GW weight to just go on an onling FAQ board and say "Sorry, no, only your own army's beacons" and then that's it!

JohnHwangDD wrote:OK, then 40k needs a rule:

Tool - If you are being a tool at the table, your opponent may pound any of your orifices with any of their appendages until you stop being a tool.

I see so many possibilities to make that just so wrong....

djones520 wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:OK, then 40k needs a rule:

Tool - If you are being a tool at the table, your opponent may pound any of your orifices with any of their appendages until you stop being a tool.

I see so many possibilities to make that just so wrong....

And that is why such a rule makes it totally redundant to say "don't be a tool".