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in 1500pts?

baneblade compnay.

3 models,

limited moving.

all big enough to see and shoot whatever they want

No, Necrons is not the answer.
An assaulty army can take it down as soon as the Warriors enter cc. Its a more advanced army.

dr vompire wrote:baneblade compnay

Baneblade Company? I don´t know what is this A Baneblade is the super heavy tank of Apocalipsis, isn´t it?

Buzzsaw wrote:You say she keeps making 'mistakes', what do you mean by that? One of the hardest thing in this (or indeed, any other game with many choices) is determining what your playstyle is. Does she keep wanting to get into assaults with her troops? Maybe she should consider an assault oriented army (Nids, Ork, BA or Chaos). Hang back to shoot but strays out of cover? Necrons' have the durability and firepower to work that way.

I mean that she keeps doing things like putting devastators in front of models than in her first turn need to move, so she moves the devastator and they don´t shoot. This is just an example, but she makes basic mistakes like the one in the example or many different ones. Forgetting using the big gun, the super cool psychic power... This kind of mistakes. Sometimes we remember and we remember her, but other times we just forget.

Orlanth wrote:Does she really want to play or is she humouring you? If her heart is not in it she will not learn it.

If she does like the games let her choose, no matter what.

I don't really know if she enjoys playing. I think she play with us because she enjoys being with us, and if we play Ping-Pong she would play it. That's the truth as I see it.
But if se doesn´t play we can play with other people, and we don't encourage her to play if she doesn't want to play. She loves the fluff of WH40k and she usually loves other kind of "geek activities", but I think she knows she is not a good player and this fact make her not loving WH40k a lot.

General Hobbs wrote:Low cut blouse, short skirt.....she'll win all of her games if she wears those.

No matter what army she plays.

I don't really think this would be really effective playing against his brother

Ifurita wrote:You could also start her off with an additional x% in forces.

I don't really think she would feel OK with this. I f she wins, she feel like her victory doesn't have any value. If she looses...

wuestenfux wrote:No, Necrons is not the answer.
An assaulty army can take it down as soon as the Warriors enter cc. Its a more advanced army.

I agree. Necrons are OK for new players sometimes, but now playing Necrons offer a lot of problems. If you are not really careful with CC, you are dead. And necrons is a medium distance shooting army (warrior necrons shoots rapid fire). Trying to keep the distance, making rapid fire, teleporting with the monoliths... I don't think this would prove easy to do. At least not as easy as running to the enemy lines with an CC army or just stay in long distance with a Shooty army.

So I can see a few viable ways for a new player or a bad one to play:
- An horde army, but with all units being exactly the same so you don't need to worry where you deploy your models. The idea of Gaunts without numbers looks really good.
- An all Assault Marines BA army. This army could be easy to play with, don´t you think?
- 3 Land Raiders and 3 CC (and troops) units. Berzerks looks good, and termies could be nice too.

And I have doubts about these:
- An all Termies army.
- Nidzillas.
- Necrons (A lot of Warrior Necrons and monoliths).

I'm sure there are a lot more, but I can remember now.

What do you think? Which kind armies do you think could be really EASY to play? Don't try to find powerful ones, just simple and really easy to play with.

Oh, and I really appreciate the example lists, but you don't really need to post them. With the kind of army you have in mind it´s more than enough. Of course, feel free to post them if you want to illustrate your ideas

3 Land Raiders and 3 CC (and troops) units. Berzerks looks good, and termies could be nice too.

I'd go for this kind of list. Three Landraiders with three troops supported by some deepstriking Termies or some Predators.

wuestenfux wrote:No, Necrons is not the answer.
An assaulty army can take it down as soon as the Warriors enter cc. Its a more advanced army.

That's some bold statement, wuestenfux. Absolutely no, huh? It's that simple. Just get into cc and the necrons fold? Maybe back in 4th when you can consolidate into another squad, but not any more, I'm afraid. Sorry, even without the monolith's ability to gate out of cc, it's not that simple under the new rules.

Clearly the necrons with 2 monoliths have not proven themselves across the pond. I will bail out of this discussion as there seems to be major diffences in opinion about how easy and effective necrons are. My 10 year old son plays them because they are so forgiving and easy to play. Have you guys ever seen the monolith necron phalanx in action over there?

Destroyers will do damage to vehicles from range. So will heavy destroyers, as will the power matrix, as will immortals.
Even if the cc army gets close to charge a necron unit, the liths pull them out of combat and rapid fire the flesh of their bones.

Whatever you decide, keep the model count down so she can learn how to use the army easily as well as the tactics. Good luck.

Possibly its not that simple.
But the way how cc is resolved (malus for looser) makes it easier to wipe out Necrons. That's my basic point.

It's really easy to destroy a 20 warrior Necrons unit in CC. Mix this with the fact that Necrons are really good shooting rapid fire and you will cry a lot.

I use to play Necrons with monoliths, and I don't feel it's a easy army to play with if you don't know exactly what are you doing... but maybe I'm wrong.

If CC rules where a bit different, I would agree with you, dornsfist, but being the way they are, I think Necrons is a nice army and in many cases good for beginners, but not one of the easiest armies to play with. A easy one, yes, but there are better options IMHO...

Im with necrons and orks. I started with a necron list (ctan and 2 monoliths) and almost never lost. As an ork, load up on lootas, and boys and you aint gunna loose. Most armies cant handle 200+orks and 45 st7 shots a turn. All you gotta do is move forward.

Sounds like she just needs an attitude adjustment. Is she playing to play, or playing to win?

If she wants to WIN, playing an easier game or easier opponents is the answer, because that's what she's going for.

If she wants to play, then she just needs to find an army with models she loves, painted in a color she enjoys, with a play STYLE she likes [for example, all-mounted, thus negating moving through units mishaps, or perhaps one focusing mainly on assault weapons like orks or eldar], and then the game will be fun despite the outcome.

Example: Orks with Burnas. Lots of them. In the ork codex they talk about the Arch-Arsonist. Build an army themed around him! Win or lose they got to burn stuff! And if she's really into the fluff, well then she knows that orks never lose!

I would think close combat nids. Infiltrating Broodlord with retinue is a real pain in the buttocks. Couple that with several CC and dakka fexes and presto. Instant assault army that isn't a slouch at putting the hurt on at range.

ie: Shoot at the Broodlord and get your face shot/ripped off by angry Carni's. Shoot the Carni's and get your face ripped off by the Broodlord. Its a WIN WIN!

I might recommend nids just some gunts with out numbers a few genestealers and a few carnafex then just let her have fun. I have a friend who dose not care if he wins he just like to do as much damage as possible she can be pretty half haphazardly with the whole army and still do some damage.

If all else fails just give her some weighted dice for a game, the confidence could help. Maybe she could make a check list to go through on her turn. or just play a game and have her take notes then use the notes next game.

I know that the OP specified a power armor army, but I wanted to throw something out there. When we had someone in a similar
situation we suggested she play an Eldar army. At first is seems more difficult because of the many unit types, but the real trick
is the army is color-coded. As long as she remembers that the blue and black ones shoot while the green and white ones run
forward it's easy to play.

Demons and Necrons are the current most idiot proof books, with the unlucky probably wanting to steer clear of the Demons given how luck-driven they are.

Followed closely by all-jump pack Blood Angels.

Try Grey Knights, they have very few troop types, but good armour, BS, and WS. They are probably the easiest SM to use.

Why does it have to be Space Marines? Go orks and spam lootas (at least 30). Even if you are a toddler or a half-wit you will win 68% of your games.