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Correct me if I'm wrong (I probably am) but now a character just has to be within 2" of a friendly unit to be part of it, meaning there is no more declared joining or leaving units?

You are incorrect. If they move within 2 inches, the IC automatically joins the unit unless declared otherwise.

Actually, if an IC is within 2" of an friendly unit (that he could otherwise join) at the end of the movement phase he automatically joins that unit. The only instance an player has to declare anything in this matter is if an IC is within 2" of two or more units. Then the player has to declare which unit the IC joins. Also, if a IC moves out of unit coherency in the movement phase he automatically leaves the unit.

arnaroe wrote:Actually, if an IC is within 2" of an friendly unit (that he could otherwise join) at the end of the movement phase he automatically joins that unit. The only instance an player has to declare anything in this matter is if an IC is within 2" of two or more units. Then the player has to declare which unit the IC joins. Also, if a IC moves out of unit coherency in the movement phase he automatically leaves the unit.

This. The IC can also only ever join or leave a unit during the movement phase, with the exception of during combat where he is considered separate beginning at the start of combat and finishing once all blows have been struck.

But ya, it pretty much HAS to be a unit he's joined, otherwise you can come up with all sorts of crazy stuff. I mean personally I would LOVE to be able to sacrifice my 100 point librarian in exchange for teleporting scary MC's, or expensive enemy characters off the board or into impassible terrain. If you say that he can teleport things like landraiders or other transports then that's essentially what you're saying, unless you arbitrarily decide it only means YOUR models, which there is no indication for. Either it means "joined" or it means you can do all sorts of slowed gak that is so ridiculously clearly not RAI.

Would be a totally fun tactic though. Librarian + termy armour + storm shield. All he has to do is last "in combat with" or "in base to base with" an enemy until his next movement phase, and then sacrifice himself for the glory of the emperor.

edit: he wouldn't actually even need to deepstrike into impassible terrain. When deepstriking, you would just place the librarian as the centre models. Since it says "place" not "owner place" that means that you do the placing, not the owner of the hive tyrant. You would place all of your marines that deepstruck with the librarian, and then when it came time to place the tyrant and his guards "oooops, they have to be in base to base, but that would mean being within 1" of an enemy model, so they're all destroyed."

Hello,

In this case, ‘with’ means unit he has joined.



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John Spencer

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