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Made in au
The Dread Evil Lord Varlak





Da Boss wrote:It's very, very wrong of me but I derive some sick, morbid satisfaction from the measels outbreak.
EAT YOUR DAMN CROW YOU SCUM!
Lazy journalists will be right after the politicians against the wall when the revolution comes.


The biggest problem with the revolution at this point is that we may not have enough wall.

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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”

Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. 
   
Made in jp
[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer






Somewhere in south-central England.

At least scientists are capable of looking objectively at how bad research may be.

http://www.badscience.net/2008/09/seriously-is-the-daily-mail-any-worse-than-your-average-academic-journal/




I'm writing a load of fiction. My latest story starts here... This is the index of all the stories...

We're not very big on official rules. Rules lead to people looking for loopholes. What's here is about it. 
   
Made in ie
Joined the Military for Authentic Experience






Nuremberg

Journals are terrrrrrible.
Seriously, seriously terrible. It's a horrible shock the first time you realise it. Even more horrible is being the person doing the research and realising that from the people funding you to the people directly advising you, no one understands what the hell you're talking about 60% of the time. They just want publications, it doesn't matter if it's good science- aim it at a vaguely relevant but not specialist journal and hope no one notices the holes.
It's really quite terrifying. Also scary is the number of borderline psychopaths working in academia.
One thing that bugs me is that sexy science gets into journals with higher impact ratings than actual good science. No one really cares about cow parasites until there's a famine, and at that point it's a bit bloody late.

   
Made in us
5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)




The Great State of Texas

Kilkrazy wrote:At least scientists are capable of looking objectively at how bad research may be.

http://www.badscience.net/2008/09/seriously-is-the-daily-mail-any-worse-than-your-average-academic-journal/




No one is objective. They will have an ax to grind as well (one way or another). Remember, in the past there were scientists who supported eugenics and other race based mythos.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
 
   
Made in ie
Joined the Military for Authentic Experience






Nuremberg

Yup. It's unfortunately true. The best you can do is analyse the data presented and draw your own conclusions. The conclusion section of a lot of papers is where the wacky stuff comes out, and where the big leaps of "logic" are made.

   
Made in us
Da Head Honcho Boss Grot





Minnesota

It's probably worth noting, any science related to popular health (vaccines, diets) is liable to be horribly mangled by the media.

Nothing boosts ratings like a barely existent disease, or poorly done research about something being dangerous to you.

Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
 
   
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience






Nuremberg

Yeah, but they coulda picked something actually harmless.
Who wins when you create pointless hysteria over something that's actually dangerous?

   
Made in de
Decrepit Dakkanaut





Da Boss wrote:Yeah, but they coulda picked something actually harmless.
Who wins when you create pointless hysteria over something that's actually dangerous?


who wins?? well, for starters, usually the people who can actually solve, or produce an aid to the actually dangerous, hysteria causing item.

   
 
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