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Ozymandias wrote:

JokerGod wrote:

Railguns wrote:Is that even possible? The flux arc only loses 1 shot per weapon destroyed result from its d6 shots. Does that mean you would have to get 6 weapon destroyed results AND immobilize it, through armor 14 with S8 weapons? Good luck doing that.

There are only 5 Guns on the Lith. 4 of the D6 hits, once all 4 are removed it can no longer fire. The big gun can't be destroyed so for damage stacking it doesn't count, so you could blow it up on glances, it is just impractical and better to just kill everything els and ignore it.

Since when does not being able to be destroyed not count for damage stacking? As always, the best way (currently) for Dark Eldar to beat Necrons is to beat them in Assault and phase them out. Works well for me.

Ozymandias, King of Kings

If it can't be removed it doesn't count for weapon destroyed so it is bypassed.

Fighting the lith is not a smart move for most, but some people like to try

JokerGod wrote:
If it can't be removed it doesn't count for weapon destroyed so it is bypassed.

Is this something I missed in the BGB or the Necrons FAQ? If so, page number please?

Ozymandias, King of Kings

Even still, managing enough weapon destroyed results and an immobilized result all in approx. 6 turns is so difficult you may as well write it off as a possibility.

By the RAW you cannot destroy a monolith through glancing hits as there is always one functioning weapon that cannot be destroyed and despite what Jokergod has been saying there are no rules stating you ignore such a weapon and inflict immobilization instead. Only when all weapons on a vehicle have been destroyed is this true.


And back onto the topic of there only being one heavy weapon in the army:

Again, I know for a fact they have designed (re-designed) the style of the Dark Lance and the Splinter Cannon so unless they've gone insane and decided to make different weapons behave the same I safely think you can throw this particular "rumor" into the trash heap.

Now, perhaps they were talking about the Disintegrator, which already had multiple firing modes? I don't buy the stats in this rumor thread for that weapon but I guess it would be possible for it to gain a third firing mode, although I don't really see it happening.

Maybe it was misheard and they meant to say "There is one heavy weapon with 3 firing modes"? It does look like an upgraded disintegrator.

I was looking over at the Warseer thread to try and filter out how accurate this rumor is. Brimstone, who also posts here and has yet to be wrong with his rumors at least as far as I've observed, said,

"Some of these rumours are incorrect and others I don't know about but the inconsistencies do cast doubt on the others. "

In other words, I wouldn't put much stock into this list of rumors.

I'm dying to know if Ahra will be one of the new Special Characters. Eldar get their phoenix lords. DE only have 1. Just give him to us!
And I'll be very happy if all the rumors about Mandrakes becoming powerful are true. All this time I've been of the opinion that they had so much coolness potential, but in the game they never measured up to their fluff. Presently they are such a crappy bare-bones unit it's unbelievable that they're an Elite choice. In Dawn of War their upgrades are so good that you can actually play an all-mandrake game. That game does them justice. I hope the new codex does as well since they are probably my favorite type of Dark Eldar. The most evil of the evil.

Exactly why my Avatar is Kheradruakh, the Mandrake Champion himself.

The decapitator? The guy who not only didn't get a miniature but also no proper description on his weapon that reads like some large pair of siscors?

He could have been so cool had GW not just forgotten what they do for a living and actually GAVE HIM A MINIATURE!

Anyway, why no Harlequins? Didn't one of the design team say that they would appear in the new DE codex when*cough*if*cough* one was ever written?

Unless the Assassin is the Solitaire?

Keep the Wych SC (Forgot her name and can't find the codex ATM), and new, BETTER Wych minis and they will convince me to go back to the army that brought me into 40k right before they said 'fu*k you' and left them floundering for a total of eleven years whilst they make more Spasse Mahreens* codices then units in the DE army codex.

*Nothing aginst SM, having 1000pts myself but I do get tired of the SM wankery whilst every army I decide to collect is forgotten about as GW fails epicly.

I had actually heard about the outflanking thing from a few sources. This would be so cool and work so well in this army...and meet the fluff!! Do we know if they are continuing the wych cult style army though?

Yeah the glass-cannon ,confusion and chaos side of the army would really be served well with outflank. Having certain sections showup suddenly from the flanks and rip big holes in the enemy lines would definitely be fun, even though this would be balanced with extreme fragility.

Heh well the fragility is there now...just add the outflank heheh

Archonate wrote:but in the game they never measured up to their fluff

OK, so this is unusual? Take a ticket and join the line...

Hrud would be cool.
Also gargoyles (whatever the ugly guys who experiment on themselves) need help
I doubt they would change the fluff though...

Hrud would be cool. But the Hrud should be Tau allies, not Dark Eldar.

Tribune wrote:

Archonate wrote:but in the game they never measured up to their fluff

OK, so this is unusual? Take a ticket and join the line...

Nothing is as underwhelming with its fluff to tabletop ratio as Mandrakes. Sorry, but they are crappy far beyond simply trying to maintain balance...

The Dark Eldar overhaul will be as good as the Woodelf overhaul... and we know how they looked before and after the new army book.

Greets
Schepp himself

You know, I get the feeling that it will be like getting a completely new army. DE as we know them will be squatted, and the new DE will be so far from what they were, that only in name will we recognize them.

Archonate wrote:You know, I get the feeling that it will be like getting a completely new army. DE as we know them will be squatted, and the new DE will be so far from what they were, that only in name will we recognize them.

You know, I think I would still be ok with that. Does anyone know if the drugs and their random tables will still exist in this new book? I hope so, but we know GW doesn't like any random-ness creeping into their dice-based game.

Dark eldar will be so chaotic and evil that they have to roll all of their special rules on a D6 after deployment...because randomness is evil and cooool!

Greets
Schepp himself

For example, you will roll 1 d6 twice for two army waide abilities. On a 1 or 2 of either, every weapon in the army has Gets Hot!. Because they use dark matter, the Gets Hot rule will work as in 4th edition:every shot makes it easier to burn yourself. Splinter Cannons will now kill you on a 4 or less.

Railguns wrote:For example, you will roll 1 d6 twice for two army waide abilities. On a 1 or 2 of either, every weapon in the army has Gets Hot!. Because they use dark matter, the Gets Hot rule will work as in 4th edition:every shot makes it easier to burn yourself. Splinter Cannons will now kill you on a 4 or less.

Are you serious? I think you must have swallowed some paint.

Archonate wrote:You know, I get the feeling that it will be like getting a completely new army. DE as we know them will be squatted, and the new DE will be so far from what they were, that only in name will we recognize them.

I agree Archonate. I think the DE we will be seeing released will be drastically different then the ones we know.

What makes me curious is why they sent the first set of rules the wrote for the re-release back for a total make-over.

Don't worry Asmy, it's just a joke.




Or is it?

I just hope they won't become "Chaos Eldar" or something lame like that...

Nah, they'll just be the Eldar with the dark hats.

Talos was the only cool thing DE had going , its really weird to be removed...

See I WANT Chaos Eldar. I always thought that would be sweet.

Gobstomp420 wrote:

Archonate wrote:You know, I get the feeling that it will be like getting a completely new army. DE as we know them will be squatted, and the new DE will be so far from what they were, that only in name will we recognize them.

You know, I think I would still be ok with that. Does anyone know if the drugs and their random tables will still exist in this new book? I hope so, but we know GW doesn't like any random-ness creeping into their dice-based game.

Oh I'm not saying it's a bad thing at all. They'll still have everything the fans love about them. We're just not used to Dark Eldar having so much to work with...

Don't know about the drugs. I could see them making you choose one type of drug for a squad, and paying a given amount of points for it, instead of rolling for a random one for free. That would give the DE players the unfamiliar sensation of having options...

No they'll probably repeat the smashing success of the possessed Chaos Marines by giving them the exact same chart that you roll on after deployment but renaming all of the effects.

BrookM wrote:Nah, they'll just be the Eldar with the dark hats.

There won't be any regular models released for Dark Eldar. Instead, GW will pull all the existing DE models from the line and produce a sprue of black hats that will be used to convert regular Eldar models into Dark Eldar.

All Dark Eldar armies must be lead by their new special character, "The Eldar with No Name." He will basically be Maugan Ra with a top hat.

LunaHound wrote:Talos was the only cool thing DE had going , its really weird to be removed...

Yeah, the Talos is cool.

Good thing these rumors are fake.
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Scottywan82 wrote:See I WANT Chaos Eldar. I always thought that would be sweet.

It'd give a better conceptual basis for the army, that's for sure.
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Hordini wrote:There won't be any regular models released for Dark Eldar. Instead, GW will pull all the existing DE models from the line and produce a sprue of black hats that will be used to convert regular Eldar models into Dark Eldar.

All Dark Eldar armies must be lead by their new special character, "The Eldar with No Name." He will basically be Maugan Ra with a top hat.

Actually, Dark Eldar infantry could be designed to be constructed similarly to Space Marines with a core sprue and then Warrior / Scourge / whatever option sprues... I think a lot pf potential exists in this kind of approach.