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The original question and another rule have the exact same wording.

It's an example of a rule not working only in one phase. Isn't that the basis of your reason for it not working? Because smoke launcher rules are in the movement phase part of the book?

Your question has been answered but you have chosen to ignore it.

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davidson wrote:

tallmantim wrote:
My reading is that the rules are pretty clear as to the intention of the rule (it part of the movement phase - the wording is "after completing its move", not "after completing a move".

Trying to interpret it to allow you to use them after consolidation is a blatant attempt at cheesy rules lawyering IMO.

So if a unit makes a consolidation move into a forest with space marine cluster mines do they blow?

They are worded in the exact same way and mention nothing about in what phase they can blow in.

Heck, they could blow in the movment phase(normal move into the woods), the shooting phase(run into the woods), and the assault phase(assault through the woods)!

So if a unit makes a consolidation move into a forest with space marine cluster mines do they blow?

They are worded in the exact same way and mention nothing about in what phase they can blow in.

Heck, they could blow in the movment phase(normal move into the woods), the shooting phase(run into the woods), and the assault phase(assault through the woods)!

He is very cheesy indeed.

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Calling me names don't stop you from being wrong.
Some people seem to have a preconceived notion that smokes worked one way in the last ed so they "must" be the same in this edition.

And yes they are worded in the same way, they are both events triggered at the end of a movement. It does not say what type of movement or in what phase it can only happen in.

The fact that using the smoke launcher is listed under the title Walkers Shooting tells me that you use them during the shooting phase, just like the reference to running. So I do indeed think you are not allowed to fire the smoke launcher in any other phase. Sorry.

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The rules under walkers shooting only points out a exception that allows dreads to run and still use smoke launchers. Otherwise the rules for smoke launchers are under Vehicles and cover-obscured targets, not the movement phase.

Whatever.

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Moderation on: Gentlemen a reminder, to please post appropriately.

You can elect to take whatever ruling you want - you have been given opinion on the site, and as with many wordings for rules, there is more than one way to interpret them.

For example, it is possible to interpret getting a weapon destroyed hit on a Necron Monolith results in it gaining an additional attack.

Without an errata or FAQ point however, these rules are up to player discussion and discression.

The point about cluster mines is a straw man argument.