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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/08 16:41:09
Subject: Ahem I say!
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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I think I might have preferred if they made some seriously up-gunned weaponry that could be used on flash gitz, nobz, or bosses, instead of something as basic as a shoota.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/08 17:52:13
Subject: Maxmini weapons
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Violent Enforcer
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If GW didn't sue fort Maxminis lasguns:
... then I don't think they will bother for the shootas.
Hopefully Maxmini will continue making great conversion bits.
I will definitely order some of their excellent head sets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/08 18:01:24
Subject: Maxmini weapons
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Foxy Wildborne
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kendoka wrote:If GW didn't sue fort Maxminis lasguns:
... then I don't think they will bother for the shootas.
Hopefully Maxmini will continue making great conversion bits.
I will definitely order some of their excellent head sets.
Except that these don't look a thing like lasguns.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/08 18:06:40
Subject: Re:Ahem I say!
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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The second one has some of the elements of a Kantrael pattern lasgun.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/08 18:27:27
Subject: Re:Ahem I say!
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator
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Daggermaw wrote:why is everyone so lawsuit crazy around here? every mention of anything that remotely looks like something else it's "lawsuit this, lawsuit that" "your gonna get sued" it's starting to sound like your momma jokes. It's getting really old.
When was the last time GW or anyone actually sued someone for IP infringement?
I don't think BrookM actually wants a rip-off of a Rock-It launcher, I think he/she(?) just wants something that looks similiar to it.
I agree with this, if Kev White and Hasslefree miniatures can produce Hellboy, the entire cast of Scooby Doo, Lara Croft, and kid jedi, I don't think a small garage company like Maximini needs to worry about a passing similarity to generic, over-sized weapons.
People are crazy about calling law suit on a lot of forums but I don't think there's any real danger. This industry is incredibly incestuous and its just going to happen that items produced by one company look like items produced by another. If GW litigated every instance of this, they'd have no time to do anything else.
Hell, Gamezone produces incredible miniatures designed specifically to appear in Games Workshop games. Is there a lot of effort by GW to chase after those guys?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/08 18:31:04
Subject: Maxmini weapons
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Monstrous Master Moulder
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lord_blackfang wrote:
Except that these don't look a thing like lasguns.
Ahem!
EDIT:pics of brokenness, now fixed
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/02/08 18:34:08
Bewhiskered Gasmasks: For the Post-Apocalyptic Gentleman
And to this day, on darkest nyte
It can be seen, they tell
A Prynce of Rattes, in finery
Upon a horned bell.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/08 18:38:05
Subject: Maxmini weapons
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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P4NC4K3 wrote:lord_blackfang wrote:
Except that these don't look a thing like lasguns.
Ahem!
EDIT:pics of brokenness, now fixed

Thank you!
You know, the reproductions do have a nice ad-hoc/scratch built feel to them, they might be something for a future project with feudal warriors being pressed into Imperial service carrying with them those lasguns, a locally produced crude copy of the standard Kantrael pattern.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/08 18:42:59
Subject: Ahem I say!
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[DCM]
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jamsessionein wrote:I think I might have preferred if they made some seriously up-gunned weaponry that could be used on flash gitz, nobz, or bosses, instead of something as basic as a shoota.
Now there's a good suggestion!
Consider it seconded!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/08 21:36:38
Subject: Ahem I say!
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Violent Enforcer
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The Maxmini lasgun (if painted non-wood) matches the GW ones (just fill the holes in the flashlight suppressor).
Not that I care.
On the contrary - I am looking forward seeing more 40k-ish weapons from Maxmini.
Sniper rifles, shotguns, flamers, autoguns, chainswords, etc.
Hopefully GW wont mind (as most of the weapons will end up on GW minis = no loss of sale).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/09 13:09:34
Subject: Ahem I say!
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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warpcrafter wrote:I was looking at Tabletop Gaming News and decided to have a look at the new post apocalyptic weapons from MaxMini, and lo and behold, do these look even a little familiar? Can we start taking bets on how long it is before GW squashes them?
Which part of those is GW IP exactly? They're big chunky guns. People are being a bit optimistic about GW actually having a chance of claiming infringement.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/09 14:13:06
Subject: Ahem I say!
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Foxy Wildborne
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I remember once upon a time a company produced big chunky walkers. They're not around anymore. Can you guess why?
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/09 16:59:38
Subject: Re:Ahem I say!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I feel like we just had this argument recently...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/09 17:14:38
Subject: Re:Ahem I say!
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Evasive Eshin Assassin
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Platuan4th wrote:I feel like we just had this argument recently...
we have this argument every time maxmini puts something out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/09 17:23:45
Subject: Re:Ahem I say!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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usernamesareannoying wrote:Platuan4th wrote:I feel like we just had this argument recently...
we have this argument every time maxmini puts something out.
I should have quoted. I was more directly referring to lord_blackfang's mention of Dream Forge.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/09 22:30:24
Subject: Ahem I say!
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Araqiel
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so here`s slightly different perspective...
After a thought I agree that there`s something wrong with this set. But it has nothing to do with copyrights (which I believe we haven`t infringed). It something diffrent. All of the conversion bits we did so far were easily recognizable as ours. Even with those tguns - some of you said that one of them is isimilar to lasgun. But at the same time you clearly see that it isn`t. So if you see it in someone`s army and you like it you`ll ask the question - how you made it / where have you bought it? .
With the current guns you won`t ask this question (I guess). You`ll simply assume that it is one of GW shootas. That`s bad in marketing sense.
Still I decided we`ll have this realease. For several reasons. They`re IMO cool and well made. First of all I think it`s not a good idea to hold something that`s ready to release, unles you suspect a real trouble with it. Would be a pity if Artur`s work would go to waste. I personally feel there might be people that would like to get something like this (well, me for instance  ).
The thing that we might still pull out at this moment is altering those or adding some new, more "fresh" designs to the set. And that`s exactly what we`re thinking to do - we`re weightning pros and cons.
And as the legal matters go - GW has a pretty good department in this matter, don`t you think? If they find there`s something wrong with this guns I`m open to talk about this with them.
BTW - some cool ideas sprang in this topic.
@Daggermaw: cool pics - really inspiring.
@warpcrafter: AK47? hmmmm.... that would be cool. To the point we might do that....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/09 22:59:33
Subject: Ahem I say!
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Foxy Wildborne
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How about making some snazzguns for Flash Gitz? GW doesn't make them yet. Or rokkit launchas for vehicles...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/09 23:23:13
Subject: Ahem I say!
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Hellacious Havoc
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Umm, guys go to a gun store and take a look around. The asthetic differances between many weapons from differant manufacturers are so small it takes an expert to spot many of them. Barrels, stocks, flash supressors, etc., are often very similar. If you don't have a chapter/army icon on it and it's not exactly the same I can't see the problem. If someone was making something fairly unique to 40K I could see the problem, like chainaxes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/10 20:24:30
Subject: Ahem I say!
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Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Guns are tools built to solve an engineering problem. So of course they all look similar.
If you made a Maxim type machine gun without a water jacket for the barrel, it would overheat and jam.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/11 02:11:53
Subject: Re:Ahem I say!
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Imperial Guard Landspeeder Pilot
On moon miranda.
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They look like generic cartoony machine guns to me, commonly found in the hands of Orks, cartoons, video games, etc...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/11 14:05:04
Subject: Re:Ahem I say!
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
No. VA USA
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usernamesareannoying wrote:Platuan4th wrote:I feel like we just had this argument recently...
we have this argument every time maxmini puts something out.
We have this argument everytime someone makes something that looks similar to GW stuff.. It's like having eggs for breakfast every morning. Sooner or later, you just barf it up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/12 08:43:36
Subject: Re:Ahem I say!
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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so here`s slightly different perspective...
After a thought I agree that there`s something wrong with this set. But it has nothing to do with copyrights (which I believe we haven`t infringed). It something diffrent. All of the conversion bits we did so far were easily recognizable as ours. Even with those tguns - some of you said that one of them is isimilar to lasgun. But at the same time you clearly see that it isn`t. So if you see it in someone`s army and you like it you`ll ask the question - how you made it / where have you bought it? .
With the current guns you won`t ask this question (I guess). You`ll simply assume that it is one of GW shootas. That`s bad in marketing sense.
Still I decided we`ll have this realease. For several reasons. They`re IMO cool and well made. First of all I think it`s not a good idea to hold something that`s ready to release, unles you suspect a real trouble with it. Would be a pity if Artur`s work would go to waste. I personally feel there might be people that would like to get something like this (well, me for instance ).
The thing that we might still pull out at this moment is altering those or adding some new, more "fresh" designs to the set. And that`s exactly what we`re thinking to do - we`re weightning pros and cons.
I agree GW legal isn't going to be able to do much to you as far as copyright or anything, it would be too costly for them and probably not worth their time. I also agree with the thought that while they are cool, they aren't going to inspire a lot of people to pick up a ton of them.
I think someone else suggested in this thread that maybe making something that could pass for snazzguns would be a great idea.
I think you guys have great miniatures, your pulp super villian range is amazing. But you need to look at the current miniatures market and see where the void is and try and fill it.
GW doesn't have miniatures for everything and as an ork player I would love to see snazzguns, a variety of lootas, a bunch of new powerklaws, orkish small arms like revolvers.
Crap what I'd really like to see would be new turrets and bitz for the battlewagon and trucks, but that's just wishful thinking.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/12 14:32:54
Subject: Ahem I say!
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The Main Man
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I don't care what anyone says. Those Dreamforge Titans were awesome.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/12 17:27:05
Subject: Ahem I say!
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Battleship Captain
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Yeah, seriously, unless you're working for Games Workshop or for a company that makes models for use in Games Workshop games, why should you care if it infringes on GW IP? Frankly, companies like MaxMini are good for us, Joe Player-on-the-Street, as they provide us with modeling and conversion options that Games Workshop does not (particularly with GW's lousy "no more bitz" policy!)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/12 17:54:39
Subject: Ahem I say!
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Foxy Wildborne
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Death By Monkeys wrote:Yeah, seriously, unless you're working for Games Workshop or for a company that makes models for use in Games Workshop games, why should you care if it infringes on GW IP? Frankly, companies like MaxMini are good for us
And that's exactly why I care. I don't want to see them shut down.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 10:30:06
Subject: Ahem I say!
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Araqiel
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we`ve decided to delay this release a bit - Artur came up with one more gun and I thought it would be cool to add it to the set:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 10:30:56
Subject: Re:Ahem I say!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Ah, now that is a worthy base for a Snazz gun, awesome!
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 11:22:16
Subject: Ahem I say!
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The Main Man
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Is "Snazz Gun" the new name for the weapons Flash Gitz carry or something?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 11:56:42
Subject: Ahem I say!
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Fireknife Shas'el
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Si.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 13:54:25
Subject: Re:Ahem I say!
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BrookM wrote:Ah, now that is a worthy base for a Snazz gun, awesome!
Seriously, yes!
More like this!
Flashgitz need the love, and GW will most likely never release any (at least not this cycle)...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/23 21:03:26
Subject: Re:Ahem I say!
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Battleship Captain
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They do look like shootas, but with a little tweaking, you'll have your self a brand new gun.
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