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I think the biggest diffeence with the M40 is the match-grade barrel. Them fethers is heavy, but very worth it of course. Twitch not, miss not.

For fun look up Knob Creek on youtube if you want to see some fun videos. It's an annual Class III get together and you get some great footage.

Personally, my dad and I own 2 Mausers, one genuine k98 and one yugoslavian. There is also an SKS with attached (dull) bayonet and old-style grenade launcher(no, it works but noone makes grenades for it anymore and we aren't crazy enough to have that in the house anyway.) One of his friends usually brings out an m1a1, among other things when we go to the range.

These weapons are perfectly legal and great fun to shoot, but I think to officially be legal to buy and own them you need to apply to the ATF for a Curios and Relics license for the actual military surplus. As long as you pay the fee and don't have an outstanding criminal record you are good to go.

SOPMOD for whoever asked, is Special Operations Modification.

It just means that the suppressor, laser sight, ACOG sights, etc are Special Operations styled.

And they are usually silly, superfluous modifications that people usually use to look "pimp" at the range. Although the older folks appreciate the laser dots and such with their failing eyes .

halonachos wrote:I've always wanted to fire the SKS my dad has, but we need to drive over a hour away to do so.

It has a bayonet still attached and looks good.

I have one. And it works. With the bayonet. And I live 13 miles into the country with no neighbors. Only problem is....ammo is so damn expensive!

Railguns wrote:And they are usually silly, superfluous modifications that people usually use to look "pimp" at the range. Although the older folks appreciate the laser dots and such with their failing eyes .

i'd rather a good aimpoint scope myself. Lasers are only really decent on pistols, and they suck then to-too much shakey shakey.

Sorry yeah that was what I meant, I forgot what they were called.

You crazy Texans. At least here in Australia we keep it reasonable; after all, when will you need a military-issue rifle. I'm fine with my 9mm revolver, thanks. Fanning the hammer makes me feel badass.

Cheese Elemental wrote: after all, when will you need a military-issue rifle.

When the government becomes more oppressive to the people then representative. When an Earthquake decimates an area and people start acting crazy. Ect ect. Who knows what is going to happen, and the reasons you might need one will be for reasons you probably won't see coming. Probably never will need them, but it isn't up to our government to dictate it fully, just a little. And no, I don't own any firearms.

Ahtman wrote:

Cheese Elemental wrote: after all, when will you need a military-issue rifle.

When the government becomes more oppressive to the people then representative. When an Earthquake decimates an area and people start acting crazy. Ect ect. Who knows what is going to happen, and the reasons you might need one will be for reasons you probably won't see coming. Probably never will need them, but it isn't up to our government to dictate it fully, just a little. And no, I don't own any firearms.

Chill out there Chuck Norris

Why should he chill out? He has a very valid point.

Take when Katrina hit New Orleans for example. People were running around looting, rapeing and murdering others freely cause the Law failed horribly.

Wouldnt you want a Semi-Automatic Rilfe to protect yourself and your family from the lawless?

I know I would.

It can happen anywhere, anytime to anyone... and to think otherwise is foolish.

Besides, these "military issue" weapons (at least the ww2 stuff) isn't particularly any more deadly to you or me than a deer rifle, it is just made to a different purpose. It isn't like once you pick up a rifle you start having dreams of conquest and destruction. It's a full fledged hobby just like Warhams(although with very different nerds with very different skillsets-somehow they attract the same types of show-off jerk types though.)

jp400 wrote:Why should he chill out? He has a very valid point.

Take when Katrina hit New Orleans for example. People were running around looting, rapeing and murdering others freely cause the Law failed horribly.

Wouldnt you want a Semi-Automatic Rilfe to protect yourself and your family from the lawless?

I know I would.

It can happen anywhere, anytime to anyone... and to think otherwise is foolish.

/facepalm.

That was a joke.

And most of the people looting, raping, and murdering others freely?

Were the ones who had guns for "self-protection".

Also, notice that the cops there before Katrina were incredibly corrupt. They were getting away with far, far too much.
The PMCs and National Guard units sure cleaned that crap up though, and caught hell for it.

Kanluwen wrote:And most of the people looting, raping, and murdering others freely?

Were the ones who had guns for "self-protection".

Lets see some evidence from some credible sources to back up such an outlandish claim.

Are we really going to have this conversation again?

Most sites wait a little while before cycling though old dependable arguments like gun control.

There's no need for the gun control argument -- at least for the Brits here. We have enough violence on the streets to argue about whether people should have guns over here or not.

@Frazzled: What's the general price range for a good scope, as in for hunting/medium range?

sA

i'd rather a good aimpoint scope myself. Lasers are only really decent on pistols, and they suck then to-too much shakey shakey.

Depends on the gun and situation

Real life: a standard cut edge round center point will do me fine on most things, allthough standard british military training you use a basic SA80 with iron sights (well, thats about the only metal on the pieces of gak)

pistols dont even need sights / dots
i think the main interest in the idea came from the SOCOM, huge fething silencer and box tip red dot

if its a sniper rifle then its allways going to be a crosshair.
ACOG sights are gak, they get hit by too much glare in the middle of the day, and they allways tend to be off by a few inches at over 100 foot or so.



Games:


call of duty 4 of course


M40A3 and R700 are the only snipers i use, once again (like real life) i cant stand ACOG sights on guns, they just slow you down and reduce the chance of a no scope kill from a distance.
Barrett is the biggest piece of gak on the game
weak, short ranged and basic compared to the M and the R.
oh, and did i forget to say it looks like gak? and when fired gives you away more? (red dot stays on the map longer)

Cheese Elemental wrote:You crazy Texans. At least here in Australia we keep it reasonable; after all, when will you need a military-issue rifle. I'm fine with my 9mm revolver, thanks. Fanning the hammer makes me feel badass.

I've never heard of a 9mm revolver. Are you talking .357?

Kanluwen wrote:

Ahtman wrote:

Cheese Elemental wrote: after all, when will you need a military-issue rifle.

When the government becomes more oppressive to the people then representative. When an Earthquake decimates an area and people start acting crazy. Ect ect. Who knows what is going to happen, and the reasons you might need one will be for reasons you probably won't see coming. Probably never will need them, but it isn't up to our government to dictate it fully, just a little. And no, I don't own any firearms.

Chill out there Chuck Norris

No thats the whole point.
-When we drove back from Austin to Houston the day after Ike, we were armed enough to make Patton blush. Unlike New Orleans, no one permitted riots and looting here.
-we have 8,000 killings just across the border in Mexico. The Mexican army is fighting them currently and its spilling over. Phoenix is now the kidnapping capital of the US as a result. Some gangs opay Mexican army units to do their fighting.

Yes there are reasons. Plus its fun as heck when out at the range.

smiling Assassin wrote:There's no need for the gun control argument -- at least for the Brits here. We have enough violence on the streets to argue about whether people should have guns over here or not.

@Frazzled: What's the general price range for a good scope, as in for hunting/medium range?

sA

Depends how twealy you want to be. Anywhere from $50 - 5,000 dollars. I'd proffer that a good day scope (non aimpoint or with elctronic griblies) could be had at $300 or less. I have a giant 9x scope for my plinky little .22 rifle which broke when I was trying to sight it in

pistols dont even need sights / dots

Wrong Army puke! Some nice trijicon night sights or simple fixed boxed sight are whats for breakfast!

Ahtman wrote:For fun look up Knob Creek on youtube if you want to see some fun videos. It's an annual Class III get together and you get some great footage.

that's pretty cool and all, but I thought that tracers were illegal.

but what do I know, I'm just a hippie from Boulder.

Frazzled wrote:We don't have licenses in Texas. In general, citizen with minimum age requirement, no history of mental illness or certain types of crimes. Yankees, Californians, long haired freaky people, and those who do not swear allegiance to both Texas and Tex/Mex need not apply. It used to be illegal to own firearms unless you had already eaten your body weight in chicken fried steak and biscuits n' gravy, but that was declared unconstitutional.

Fraz, I thought it was illegal in Texas to not carry a firearm.

As far as pistol sights go, I'm a C-more man, myself.

Well there is the technicalities one has to go through when one turns 4...

I see alot of people talking about their SKSs. Every SKS I've ever had or used has always had 2 problems: 1) the magazine is a ridiculous hassale to seat properly and 2) many mags feed extremely poorly to the point of not at all. Is this just me?

Now the 2nd I can probably blame on sub-standard magazines. I simply cannot, however, fathom how a military rifle was designed with such a finnicky locking mechanism.

Madadh,

Have you tried fireing one that wasnt a complete pile of junk?

I own a couple and have never had a problem with em. Like any other gun if you dont take care of them they will act up on you.

Our sks is fine, but dads bud has a FN with a bum ejector that fails to remove the cartridge almost every time.

As for sights, you should see our yugo mauser. The sight is permanently fixed at 400 yards, so it will hit a target an entire 12 inches high at 100 yards. It is still boringly accurate, so all you have to do is put the target at the top of the iron hood over the end of the barrels' sights and shoot away.

many of us need scopes not for better accuracy (which it provides), but because we are so blind we can't see the freeking target.

BLARGAG!!! wrote:

Ahtman wrote:For fun look up Knob Creek on youtube if you want to see some fun videos. It's an annual Class III get together and you get some great footage.

that's pretty cool and all, but I thought that tracers were illegal.

but what do I know, I'm just a hippie from Boulder.

Nah, they are just expensive.

JD21290 wrote:

M40A3 and R700 are the only snipers i use, once again (like real life) i cant stand ACOG sights on guns, they just slow you down and reduce the chance of a no scope kill from a distance.
Barrett is the biggest piece of gak on the game
weak, short ranged and basic compared to the M and the R.
oh, and did i forget to say it looks like gak? and when fired gives you away more? (red dot stays on the map longer)

I disagree on the ACOG. The influx of gak new people with no reflexes means that from a standoff range I outshoot 90% of 'Boot Camp 10th Prestigers' (i.e. Idea taken from CoD5, people on the last Prestige who are terrible) with my trusty M40 ACOG. I actually like it more -- I'm an active sniper, generally.

The Barrett is terrible. Fine you get a 50 cal gun, but in every match, you get a few nice kills, then the people on the other team always go "Oh let's get the prick with the .50", and you get rushed.

The R700 is meant to be the expert's gun, I'm not sure. The M40 has the close and the long, but the R700 fails close, from my experience.

sA

(Why are we talking about CoD4?)

p.s. WHY AM I QUOTED?