Am i Missing something (New Guard Codex??)

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**Iron_Chaos_Brute**

If you look in the top left corner of each post, there is a name. This name may be referenced by other people. This is what Drunkspleen was indicating (the name) when he referenced Gwar.

**don_mondo**

Razerous wrote:Heres what you do;

Buy 50 guards men. Keep 40 in one block (for surviveability/casultie/massed single target firepower) and shave off 10 to get put into that valk.

That valk can now go ahead and do its job & outflank (with the help of an astropath) and move along @ 6" (after arriving, mostly likely, where you want it, again with the help of the astropath) firing 3 tl-lascannons. It is also a scoring vehicle capable of fast-skimmer movement.

Go ahead & go crazy, get creed, & outflank (using the scouts USR) a 3-strong squadren of Leman Russes.

But ofcourse all of these things costs points & while theres many many awesome things you can do (a 10man strong psyker squad in a chimera, with psyhic shooting attack that = str 10 AP d6 large blasts Or -10 on LD that just requires a passed Psychic tests..which can be combined with infiltrating first round-pinning, hot-shot lasgun wielding storm troopers for auto-pinning purposes) it'll be a case of finding a balance to accomplish everything required in an army.

Just a couple of notes. You can't use the Creed Scout ability on a squadron. Psyker Battle Squad maxes at ST 9 balst or -9 on LD (9 psykers and 1 overseer in a maxed out squad).

**Gwar!**

Errr, what makes you say you cant use it on a Squadron?
Creed: "Choose a single infantry or vehicle unit"

Page 64 BRB: "Most vehicles fight as individual units and are represented by a Single model. However, some ... operate in units of more than one vehicle, known as squadrons. These follow the rules for normal units..."

**don_mondo**

IIRC, there are a couple more words in Creed's rules behind the ones you have quoted that say something like, not a squadron.

**Webbe**

don_mondo wrote:IIRC, there are a couple more words in Creed's rules behind the ones you have quoted that say something like, not a squadron.

Nope!
Gwar is correct, Creed can give Scouts to any unit including a vehicle squadron.

**Gwar!**

don_mondo wrote:IIRC, there are a couple more words in Creed's rules behind the ones you have quoted that say something like, not a squadron.

You remember incorrectly my good sir.
As one of the lucky few to have one in my hands, I can quote to you verbatim Creeds rule:

Page 57 wrote:Tactical Genius: During Deployment, choose a single infantry or vehicle unit in your army. That unit has the Scouts special rule for the duration of the battle.

**Marius Xerxes**

The internet is a beautifl thing. I think a lot of people will have it in their hands soon.

**don_mondo**

Hmmm, OK, I misremembered something I looked up last night then.

**holden88**

So, to be perfectly clear here. The rules DO NOT allow you to deploy a NON-dedicated transport on the table at the start of the game with any unit embarked inside. However, you may place said transport in reserve at which point you can decide to put a unit inside. The transport and the unit will now deploy and/or outflank together when they arrive from reserves.

Dedicated transports on the other hand may deploy on the table at the start of the game (or be placed in reserve) with the unit they are dedicated to embarked (but no other unit).

Do I have this right?

**nosferatu1001**

holden - no, to be clear the rules DO let you do this, as dedicated transportrs say they function as normal transports EXCEPT that only the unit is bought for can be deployed inside. that menas that yes, you can.