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uri lee are pants wrote:I only ever sprayed one model, and that was ruined too, so I don't bother now. it takes away from all the subtle shading and highlights, and totaly ruins the shine painted onto metals. leave them unvarnished, and only ever touch the model by the base!

I did that for awhile, but paint would randomly break off due to temperature changes in rooms causing strain on the adhesive. I shied away from sealing it until I tried a Matte sealant over a gloss - better results than I could have ever dreamed for, it makes the model look better than you would believe. Something about how the light reflects through the finishes brings out the colours really well.
Try it on a test mini if you don't believe me, I use GW gloss sealant and a testor matte finish.

Hordicant wrote:

whocares wrote:I cry the man cry.

Is this the bitten lower lip, slight trickle of a tear from the corner of the eye, with the hard set in stone face of 'if anyone so much as even thinks about making a smart ass remark I'll remove their throat from their neck in one mind blogglign fast move'?

The man cry comes in many forms.

So for anyone still listening, I tried the zip kicker, and it seems to have workd a little bit, im gonna hit it again later and see what happens.

Dude you are going to ruin your model if you keep listening to the goons on here. Water... Zip Kicker... Oh my gosh.

Seriously there is a very easy fix that will return you model completely back to normal. Well I don't know now that you put water and zip kicker on it.

I have had many o' models turn "dusty", "milky", "frosty" whatever. I live in Cincinnati and we are all about humid here.

Anyways, if your model ever has this happen, stop and take a deep breath. Allow the model to dry for 24 hours in a climate controlled (air conditioned) room. Then spray with a gloss varnish and again allow to dry completely, again in a climate controlled environment. Finally, spray with Testors dullcote and allow to dry in a climate controlled environment.

This works perfectly. I have turned the blackest black almost white with varnish, done the above, and had it return completely to it's original form.

Varnishes hate humidity. Not just the hot kind either. Any kind of moisture in the air is gonna f@ck up your model.

I was just directed to this post, and while I am flattered that someone thought I had actually done something worth sharing, twasnt me as you, dear reader, now know if you investigated the thread quoted previous.

I advocate the zip kicker method. You MUST make sure that your model is in good environmental conditions for spraying at all before you try it with the zip kicker. Good luck, and I would appreciate any pics you have to share. Porkuslime shared his results, and they seemed to work quite well with this method.

actually, i tried a few methods, the zip kicker worked a bit, but then i tried the gloss then matter method and that seemed to work.



there is the model as it stands now.

Damn. Nice work. You happy with the finish?

Wow, that is a Great link to the previous thread on this topic. With good pics, too... I'll just put it here again for anyone just glancing at the thread:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/215757.page

Good stuff!

That model looks good... is there still some cloudiness around his eye, or is that the flash from the camera?

I feel that blaming humidity s a Myth. The same thing happened to me this year. While I was in the middle of the Sonoran desert.

I cussed at myself for not clearing the nozzle before spraying my models. After you shake a can of aerosol paint it is always best to test spray a piece of card board before turning to models. This seems to fix the white splatter.

The other problem that can occur is that if too much gathers in the crevices, those deep lines will turn white. I now run real heavy on the inks and washes to try and reduce this problem.

BTW, Yes I feel your pain.

Same thing happended to my BB Deathroller that I had spent 10 hours painting.
My solution was (and it worked) to gently brush the model with acetone. Just a little aceton on the brush to "melt" the varnish and let the water out. If you take too much the acetone it will go all the way into the paint and ruin the paintjob.

/Martin