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I always thought the original series was sort of full of itself, what with all the philosophizing and speech-making. This movie delivers a much more believable flow of story and constantly builds toward a kick-ass conclusion. Here's hoping the next one will be a massive war between the Federation and the Klingons. I just got home and I already want to see it again!!!
Saw it last night. I thought it was really good. The only parts to me that really hurt the film was the homages to specific character (i.e. dammit Jim I'm a doctor, not a phyiscist-sp, I'm giving it all I can Captain, etc...).
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Best part of movie:
Spoiler:
The Red Shirt's death. I think his name is Odonell. On his way to disable the drill he says something along the lines of, "I'm ready to kick some Romulan ass" so you're thinking ya this guy's going to be a bad ass. He waits till he is like a 1000 meters away from his target and he releases his parachute too late and gets sucked into a drilling laser.
I will guarantee that this moment becomes part of an Epic Fail montage. You heard it here first.
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I saw it. I liked it. but i have a few negative comments.
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1) WHY DID THEY MAKE PHASERS GO PEW PEW?!?!?! phasers have ALWAYS been beams. it made me sad :-(
2) They broke physics. They completely ignored the whole stretching and time dilation effects of a black hole.
3) While the whole 'alternate universe' thing does open alot of doors, it seems.... wrong. They've essentially written themselves into a corner. Sure, it's an alternate universe, but it's not different enough to really justify making any more star trek stuff. you can either declare it non-canon (haha) and continue from after Nemesis, or continue this storyline, which would really be too similar to the original one to be worth doing much with.
4) Spock and Uhura? please.
5) they said Uhura's first name. why? they made sure to never say her first name in the shows. why would they just blow that off now?
6) Leonard Nimoy felt out of place. Yes, his role called for his presence, but he just seemed... wrong. Everyone else was a different actor, and having the one original felt wrong somehow.
That all being said, it was AWESOME. I'll be buying it when it's on DVD.
2) They broke physics. They completely ignored the whole stretching and time dilation effects of a black hole.and having the one original felt wrong somehow.
Wait, you just watched a Star Trek movie and you are only worried about that point "breaking" Physics? I have not seen the film but after watching the full scene with the different creatures on the "Ice Planet", I think that it fails Physics (and biology) more than your example (and there should have been one human with a broken neck on at least two occasions in that scene alone). Having said that, when I can find time to get to a theater, I will be watching the film.
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I liked it, whats so bad about you know who and you know who getting it on.
Anternate is a lot better than paying the cast of TNG a huge sun for another flop.
And whilst you're pointing and shouting at the boogeyman in the corner, you're missing the burglar coming in through the window.
Well, Duh! Because they had a giant Mining ship. If you had a giant mining ship you would drill holes in everything too, before you'd destory it with a black hole
I didn't really realize that this wassupposed to be a redshirt
Hey, I knew he was going to die when I first saw him because...
Spoiler:
he was wearing a red space suit.
One other thing I noticed that I thought was good...
Spoiler:
during the attack on the USS Kelvin a crew member was sucked into space. While she was in the ship you could hear her screaming for help. Once she left the ship it was dead quiet as space should be.
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I didn't really realize that this wassupposed to be a redshirt
Hey, I knew he was going to die when I first saw him because...
Spoiler:
he was wearing a red space suit.
One other thing I noticed that I thought was good...
Spoiler:
during the attack on the USS Kelvin a crew member was sucked into space. While she was in the ship you could hear her screaming for help. Once she left the ship it was dead quiet as space should be.
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I'm pretty sure that in space and being a vaccum we should have started to see her body start to expand due to her blood starting to boil and filling her body with gas, causing her skin to blow up like a ballon. But you hardly ever see this effect in space movies anyway, and when they do show it, they usually show it as someone instantly exploding which I don't think is correct either.
I'm pretty sure that in space and being a vaccum we should have started to see her body start to expand due to her blood starting to boil and filling her body with gas, causing her skin to blow up like a ballon. But you hardly ever see this effect in space movies anyway, and when they do show it, they usually show it as someone instantly exploding which I don't think is correct either.
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From Nasa on what would happen:
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How long can a human live unprotected in space?
If you don't try to hold your breath, exposure to space for half a minute or so is unlikely to produce permanent injury. Holding your breath is likely to damage your lungs, something scuba divers have to watch out for when ascending, and you'll have eardrum trouble if your Eustachian tubes are badly plugged up, but theory predicts -- and animal experiments confirm -- that otherwise, exposure to vacuum causes no immediate injury. You do not explode. Your blood does not boil. You do not freeze. You do not instantly lose consciousness.
Various minor problems (sunburn, possibly "the bends", certainly some [mild, reversible, painless] swelling of skin and underlying tissue) start after ten seconds or so. At some point you lose consciousness from lack of oxygen. Injuries accumulate. After perhaps one or two minutes, you're dying. The limits are not really known.
You do not explode and your blood does not boil because of the containing effect of your skin and circulatory system. You do not instantly freeze because, although the space environment is typically very cold, heat does not transfer away from a body quickly. Loss of consciousness occurs only after the body has depleted the supply of oxygen in the blood. If your skin is exposed to direct sunlight without any protection from its intense ultraviolet radiation, you can get a very bad sunburn.
At NASA's Manned Spacecraft Center (now renamed Johnson Space Center) we had a test subject accidentally exposed to a near vacuum (less than 1 psi) in an incident involving a leaking space suit in a vacuum chamber back in '65. He remained conscious for about 14 seconds, which is about the time it takes for O2 deprived blood to go from the lungs to the brain. The suit probably did not reach a hard vacuum, and we began repressurizing the chamber within 15 seconds. The subject regained consciousness at around 15,000 feet equivalent altitude. The subject later reported that he could feel and hear the air leaking out, and his last conscious memory was of the water on his tongue beginning to boil.
Aviation Week and Space Technology (02/13/95) printed a letter by Leonard Gordon which reported another vacuum-packed anecdote:
"The experiment of exposing an unpressurised hand to near vacuum for a significant time while the pilot went about his business occurred in real life on Aug. 16, 1960. Joe Kittinger, during his ascent to 102,800 ft (19.5 miles) in an open gondola, lost pressurization of his right hand. He decided to continue the mission, and the hand became painful and useless as you would expect. However, once back to lower altitudes following his record-breaking parachute jump, the hand returned to normal."
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"In the absence of atmospheric pressure water will spontaneously convert into vapor, which would cause the moisture in a victim's mouth and eyes to quickly boil away. The same effect would cause water in the muscles and soft tissues of the body to evaporate, prompting some parts of the body to swell to twice their usual size after a few moments. This bloating may result in some superficial bruising due to broken capillaries, but it would not be sufficient to break the skin. "
So Like I said you would see some swelling but no explosion, since your skin has the ability to expand like a ballon. Just look at the morbidly obese and you will see examples of skin stretching.
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why? they made sure to never say her first name in the shows. why would they just blow that off now?
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Having said that, when I can find time to get to a theater, I will be watching the film.
