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2009/05/12 20:20:09
Subject: BEAT THIS UNIT
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Long-Range Ultramarine Land Speeder Pilot
Dallas, TX
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SM Command Squad with Plasmagun x 4 @ Avatar.
175
Points for Captain not included, but then again, not needed for this, just present in the army list.
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Ultramarines Second Company - ~4000 points
Dark Eldar WIP - ~800 points
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2009/05/12 20:39:49
Subject: Re:BEAT THIS UNIT
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:Joostuh wrote:12 Crisis suits with twinlinked flamers.
372 pt.
Avatar of Khaine.
155 points
No, I've done the Mathhammer and the Avatar loses against te suits in CC. After 3 rounds the Avatar is at -0.34 wounds the suits are at 17.33 wounds, that is about 8 suits left. In this mathhammer no one gets the charge, even though the suits will probably get it as they are more manoeuvrable and the Avatar can only charge 1 squad (maybe 2 if he gets lucky).
But lets proceed with the Command Squad.
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2009/05/12 20:46:47
Subject: Re:BEAT THIS UNIT
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Joostuh wrote:12 Crisis suits with twinlinked flamers.
372 pt.
Except that's not a legal unit for 2 reasons.
1.) 3 man squads max. you would need 4 elites slots, which you do not have.
2.) you need a third hardpoint filled up.
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"Each must find their own way. If those in our heartland had witnessed the savageries of the void as have we they would know this. The hand of each of the great starfarers is turned against the other; none will join their strength together just to to see their ancient enemies prosper. Neither should we."
- Commander Farsight. |
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2009/05/12 20:51:10
Subject: Re:BEAT THIS UNIT
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/05/12 20:51:57
The true followers of the God-Emperor will never forget their name! We are the Imperial Guard!
Now and forever serving the God-Emperor, and Him alone! |
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2009/05/12 20:51:36
Subject: BEAT THIS UNIT
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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GeneralRetreat wrote:SM Command Squad with Plasmagun x 4 @ Avatar.
175
Points for Captain not included, but then again, not needed for this, just present in the army list.
Dice: 1$ Points: 0 I wait for you to roll a couple "gets hot" results. Alternatively: 3 Crisis suits – 75 TL missile pods – 54 Targeting arrays – 30 Plays keep-away at 13"-36" range, 159 points
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/05/12 20:54:49
"Each must find their own way. If those in our heartland had witnessed the savageries of the void as have we they would know this. The hand of each of the great starfarers is turned against the other; none will join their strength together just to to see their ancient enemies prosper. Neither should we."
- Commander Farsight. |
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2009/05/12 20:53:54
Subject: Re:BEAT THIS UNIT
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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The Revelator wrote:Joostuh wrote:12 Crisis suits with twinlinked flamers.
372 pt.
Except that's not a legal unit for 2 reasons.
1.) 3 man squads max. you would need 4 elites slots, which you do not have.
2.) you need a third hardpoint filled up.
OP wrote: it can compose of 3 squads no more and no apocalipse
1.) Missed that.
2.)Yeah I cheated on that one.  But 12 BSF are only 36 points so make that 11 XV8 TL flamer and BSF for 374pt.
The Revelator wrote:Dice: 1$
Points: 0
I wait for you to roll a couple "gets hot" results.
What are they shooting at? 
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2009/05/12 20:54:29
Subject: Re:BEAT THIS UNIT
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The Revelator wrote:Joostuh wrote:12 Crisis suits with twinlinked flamers.
372 pt.
Except that's not a legal unit for 2 reasons.
1.) 3 man squads max. you would need 4 elites slots, which you do not have.
2.) you need a third hardpoint filled up.
Buy a commander and get bodyguards. 3 extra suits, done.
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2009/05/12 20:56:04
Subject: Re:BEAT THIS UNIT
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Liquidwulfe wrote:The Revelator wrote:Joostuh wrote:12 Crisis suits with twinlinked flamers.
372 pt.
Except that's not a legal unit for 2 reasons.
1.) 3 man squads max. you would need 4 elites slots, which you do not have.
2.) you need a third hardpoint filled up.
Buy a commander and get bodyguards. 3 extra suits, done.
But that's way more expensive.
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"Each must find their own way. If those in our heartland had witnessed the savageries of the void as have we they would know this. The hand of each of the great starfarers is turned against the other; none will join their strength together just to to see their ancient enemies prosper. Neither should we."
- Commander Farsight. |
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2009/05/12 20:57:02
Subject: Re:BEAT THIS UNIT
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Liquidwulfe wrote:The Revelator wrote:Joostuh wrote:12 Crisis suits with twinlinked flamers.
372 pt.
Except that's not a legal unit for 2 reasons.
1.) 3 man squads max. you would need 4 elites slots, which you do not have.
2.) you need a third hardpoint filled up.
Buy a commander and get bodyguards. 3 extra suits, done.
and it has to be about the same point value as the last unit
A Commander/bodyguard unit will raise your unit with 45pt above the Shas'ui's.
GeneralRetreat wrote:SM Command Squad with Plasmagun x 4 @ Avatar.
175
Points for Captain not included, but then again, not needed for this, just present in the army list.
2 Dreads (any) 170-250pt.
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2009/05/12 21:08:26
Subject: Re:BEAT THIS UNIT
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Joostuh wrote:
2 Dreads (any) 170-250pt.
3 Broadside battlesuits - 240
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/05/12 21:08:50
"Each must find their own way. If those in our heartland had witnessed the savageries of the void as have we they would know this. The hand of each of the great starfarers is turned against the other; none will join their strength together just to to see their ancient enemies prosper. Neither should we."
- Commander Farsight. |
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2009/05/12 21:17:35
Subject: Re:BEAT THIS UNIT
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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The Revelator wrote:3 Broadside battlesuits - 240
That is 210pt. 
30 Boyz, Nob, PK, Bosspole
220pt
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2009/05/12 21:18:51
Subject: BEAT THIS UNIT
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Long-Range Ultramarine Land Speeder Pilot
Dallas, TX
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The Revelator wrote:GeneralRetreat wrote:SM Command Squad with Plasmagun x 4 @ Avatar.
175
Points for Captain not included, but then again, not needed for this, just present in the army list.
Dice: 1$
Points: 0
I wait for you to roll a couple "gets hot" results.
You'll be waiting a while. Do the Mathhammer on this squad while remembering the Apothecary's granted Feel No Pain rule. You'll see what I mean.
(1/6 chance of GH, 1/3 chance of failed save, 1/2 chance of failed FNP = 1/36 chance of loosing a model to Gets Hot. 8 shots per turn * 6 turns = 48 shots at absolute maximum, so one loss per game. More than likely, the squad gets ~25 shots per game, so less than one loss per game on average.)
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/05/12 21:23:11
Ultramarines Second Company - ~4000 points
Dark Eldar WIP - ~800 points
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2009/05/12 21:19:48
Subject: BEAT THIS UNIT
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Regular Dakkanaut
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1 Hellhound
Heavy flamer
Heavy stubber 140 points.
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2009/05/12 21:21:12
Subject: Re:BEAT THIS UNIT
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Joostuh wrote:The Revelator wrote:3 Broadside battlesuits - 240
That is 210pt.
30 Boyz, Nob, PK, Bosspole
220pt
Not with Multi-trackers it's not.
I go back to:
3 Crisis suits – 75
TL missile pods – 54
Targeting arrays – 30
Which can keep out of range with hilarious ease, while hitting with with 6-8 S7 AP4 hits per turn.
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"Each must find their own way. If those in our heartland had witnessed the savageries of the void as have we they would know this. The hand of each of the great starfarers is turned against the other; none will join their strength together just to to see their ancient enemies prosper. Neither should we."
- Commander Farsight. |
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2009/05/12 21:24:32
Subject: Re:BEAT THIS UNIT
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Didn't write that did ya?
EDIT:
And then its 225pt.
Warboss,
Bike, PK, Attack squig, Cybork body.
150 Pt
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2009/05/12 21:32:15
Subject: Re:BEAT THIS UNIT
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Unhealthy Competition With Other Legions
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Ok 3 preditors with mm 150 points 36 inch away
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2009/05/12 21:53:31
 "Victory needs no explanation,Defeat allows none." 
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2009/05/12 22:21:42
Subject: Re:BEAT THIS UNIT
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Serious Squig Herder
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Kogwar wrote:Ok 3 preditors with mm 150 points 36 inch away
Carneus Malgar in his Sunday Termie Suit.
265 points.
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2009/05/12 22:30:05
Subject: Re:BEAT THIS UNIT
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Wicked Canoptek Wraith
united states of america state of: confusion
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1 monolith 12" away 235 pts
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2009/05/12 22:33:16
Subject: BEAT THIS UNIT
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Long-Range Ultramarine Land Speeder Pilot
Dallas, TX
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The Larch.
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Ultramarines Second Company - ~4000 points
Dark Eldar WIP - ~800 points
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2009/05/12 22:36:44
Subject: Re:BEAT THIS UNIT
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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gamefreak wrote:1 monolith 12" away 235 pts
3 Broadsides. 240 points =D
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2009/05/12 22:38:48
"Each must find their own way. If those in our heartland had witnessed the savageries of the void as have we they would know this. The hand of each of the great starfarers is turned against the other; none will join their strength together just to to see their ancient enemies prosper. Neither should we."
- Commander Farsight. |
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2009/05/12 22:44:05
Subject: Re:BEAT THIS UNIT
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Wicked Canoptek Wraith
united states of america state of: confusion
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1 unit of 1 heavy destroyers, 1 unit of 2 heavy destroyers, and one tomb spyder: 250 points
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2009/05/12 22:50:39
Subject: Re:BEAT THIS UNIT
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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gamefreak wrote:1 unit of 1 heavy destroyers, 1 unit of 2 heavy destroyers, and one tomb spyder: 250 points
I have difficulty believing they wouldn't fall or at least be rendedered useless, by the broadsides.
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"Each must find their own way. If those in our heartland had witnessed the savageries of the void as have we they would know this. The hand of each of the great starfarers is turned against the other; none will join their strength together just to to see their ancient enemies prosper. Neither should we."
- Commander Farsight. |
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2009/05/12 23:20:22
Subject: Re:BEAT THIS UNIT
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Give the broadsides shield drones and they can take those destroyers.
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2009/05/13 00:21:06
Subject: Re:BEAT THIS UNIT
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Regular Dakkanaut
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abadon with lots of cover 275 points ( or hiden line of sight from broadsides)
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i play   bro plays 
 1100points
 2500points
bros  :1200 points |
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2009/05/13 00:38:26
Subject: Re:BEAT THIS UNIT
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
UK
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The deciever - 300pts.
Go on - really?
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:Friend of mine just sent me this:
"The Tyranid Codex, where I learned the truth about despair, as will you. There's a reason why this codex is the worst hell on earth... Hope. ."
Too be fair.. it's all worked out quite well!
Heh. |
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2009/05/13 00:51:02
Subject: BEAT THIS UNIT
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
London (work) / Pompey (live, from time to time)
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ghaz on his waaagh! move - 225pts.
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 Suffused with the dying memories of Sanguinus, the warriors of the Death Company seek only one thing: death in battle fighting against the enemies of the Emperor. |
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2009/05/13 00:51:45
Subject: Re:BEAT THIS UNIT
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Regular Dakkanaut
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um yeh ill stop there i still hav ent found a way to kill thje deciever in apocalypse games let alone normal games
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i play bro plays
1100points
2500points
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2009/05/13 00:54:29
Subject: BEAT THIS UNIT
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Martial Arts Fiday
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4 Dual Scatterlaser Warwalkers 240 pts.
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"Holy Sh*&, you've opened my eyes and changed my mind about this topic, thanks Dakka OT!"
-Nobody Ever
Proverbs 18:2
"CHEESE!" is the battlecry of the ill-prepared.
 warboss wrote:
GW didn't mean to hit your wallet and I know they love you, baby. I'm sure they won't do it again so it's ok to purchase and make up.
Albatross wrote:I think SlaveToDorkness just became my new hero.
EmilCrane wrote:Finecast is the new Matt Ward.
Don't mess with the Blade and Bolter! |
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2009/05/13 01:11:10
Subject: BEAT THIS UNIT
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
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4 Warwalkers?
I'd use tactics.
Can't beat tactics. Can ya?
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2009/05/13 01:18:46
Subject: BEAT THIS UNIT
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Martial Arts Fiday
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I can shoot the gak out of them though!
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"Holy Sh*&, you've opened my eyes and changed my mind about this topic, thanks Dakka OT!"
-Nobody Ever
Proverbs 18:2
"CHEESE!" is the battlecry of the ill-prepared.
warboss wrote:
GW didn't mean to hit your wallet and I know they love you, baby. I'm sure they won't do it again so it's ok to purchase and make up.
Albatross wrote:I think SlaveToDorkness just became my new hero.
EmilCrane wrote:Finecast is the new Matt Ward.
Don't mess with the Blade and Bolter! |
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